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screamingPatsFan 09-06-2010 09:03 PM

Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
So you keep us waiting for hours on draft day with anticipation even though we all know that draft pick is getting traded or swapped for 2 2nd round picks.. yea Value. The next day, the so-called football experts rave about how BB is a genius. Part of me wants to believe that and his record from part years supports his case. (how long is this part record card is going to last? does it have an expiration date? yea he has SB rings but how long can you use that to make up for his draft woes?)

So now you got all your "value"d 2nd and 3rd round draft picks... quantity over quality (when is that ever a good thing??)
The best analogy I could come up with is someone who's been given $25k to buy a new car. He browses the lot, tests drives a couple but then says "nah Im just going to buy to used cars for $12.5k. I will end up with two cars instead of one and odds are that one of them will last and give me good production"
Both cars sh%t the bed and you end up with nothing (I wanted to use another expression but I dont want to get banned)

I think what happened this weekend with the roster cuts is a blessing... maybe they ll realize "HEY what we are doing here just aint working"
because the philosophy that they have been preaching for the past 3-4 drafts got a pretty good smack.

McKenzie, Burgess.... three draft picks (including 2 3rd rounders) gone bye bye!!!!
what if they just drafted where they were... you could probably have Rey Maualuga, Clay Mathews as your LBs... that is just a sample. Im sure I could find more players they missed out on by trading down.

Yea I know they've hit on some players(edelman, volmer..etc) and they've stayed pretty competitive but we are not talking about the freaking Detriot lions here... we r talking about a super bowl contender team. Staying competitive isnt good enough (maybe they r trying to change our perception) but keep in mind you still have one of the best quarterbacks on that team and I dont think they are giving him a good chance to win another ring.

They've missed on some draft picks so bad, look where the defense is right now. Dont tell me they are going to get better throughout the year... the talent just isnt there. Look at the LB and DE's depth chart... actually you will find something positive... VALUE... and tons of it but last time I checked Value cant sack the quarterback and cant cover wide receivers.

Value... please!!!

Ron Sellers 09-06-2010 09:09 PM

Re: Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
Please enlighten me with what you would have done differently.

ctpatsfan77 09-06-2010 09:09 PM

Re: Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
So would you rather have the JEST draft, where they have a fourth-round pick—just one of four—just idling on the bench all season?

cmasspatsfan 09-06-2010 09:15 PM

Re: Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
Every team misses on draft picks and most years we were picking at the bottom of the rounds so that would increase the odds of missing on a player, plus we had very good players that they would have to supplant.
They have also traded up in drafts to get a guy they want, they dont always trade down for more picks, or value as you like to say, thats just a misconception Felger likes to pass along.

BradyFTW! 09-06-2010 09:17 PM

Re: Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
Wait, gorillas can type now??

Pro-tip: your analogy would hold up a little bit if even new cars had a short-term failure rate of 50+%

CheeseMonkeys 09-06-2010 09:20 PM

Re: Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Sellers (Post 2120655)
Please enlighten me with what you would have done differently.

He said he would have gotten the sure earlier round players rather than trade back and get 2 s#it players.

patsfan13 09-06-2010 09:21 PM

Re: Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
In the last 2 drafts we have added the nucleus for the next 5 years. Will ALL the picks hit? Of course not. We took 24 players + UDFA's not all will pan out or even if they do we won't have room for all of them.


When you look at the players taken a number of them could become 'stars'.

Spikes, Chung, McCourty, Cunningham, Brace, Tate, Edleman, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Vollmer, Mesko, all positioned to be starters/major contributors, this is a remarkable haul in 2 years. Oh Yeah Hoyer who is the best backup we have had during BB's tenure

Patspsycho 09-06-2010 09:25 PM

Re: Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by screamingPatsFan (Post 2120647)
So you keep us waiting for hours on draft day with anticipation even though we all know that draft pick is getting traded or swapped for 2 2nd round picks.. yea Value. The next day, the so-called football experts rave about how BB is a genius. Part of me wants to believe that and his record from part years supports his case. (how long is this part record card is going to last? does it have an expiration date? yea he has SB rings but how long can you use that to make up for his draft woes?)

So now you got all your "value"d 2nd and 3rd round draft picks... quantity over quality (when is that ever a good thing??)
The best analogy I could come up with is someone who's been given $25k to buy a new car. He browses the lot, tests drives a couple but then says "nah Im just going to buy to used cars for $12.5k. I will end up with two cars instead of one and odds are that one of them will last and give me good production"
Both cars sh%t the bed and you end up with nothing (I wanted to use another expression but I dont want to get banned)

I think what happened this weekend with the roster cuts is a blessing... maybe they ll realize "HEY what we are doing here just aint working"
because the philosophy that they have been preaching for the past 3-4 drafts got a pretty good smack.

McKenzie, Burgess.... three draft picks (including 2 3rd rounders) gone bye bye!!!!
what if they just drafted where they were... you could probably have Rey Maualuga, Clay Mathews as your LBs... that is just a sample. Im sure I could find more players they missed out on by trading down.

Yea I know they've hit on some players(edelman, volmer..etc) and they've stayed pretty competitive but we are not talking about the freaking Detriot lions here... we r talking about a super bowl contender team. Staying competitive isnt good enough (maybe they r trying to change our perception) but keep in mind you still have one of the best quarterbacks on that team and I dont think they are giving him a good chance to win another ring.

They've missed on some draft picks so bad, look where the defense is right now. Dont tell me they are going to get better throughout the year... the talent just isnt there. Look at the LB and DE's depth chart... actually you will find something positive... VALUE... and tons of it but last time I checked Value cant sack the quarterback and cant cover wide receivers.

Value... please!!!

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CheeseMonkeys 09-06-2010 09:26 PM

Re: Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
If we can just get a stud RB and DE/OLB next year we are set... It shouldn't be that hard to do with our multiple 1st and 2nd round picks. We may be disappointed when BB trades back to get 30 7th and 6th round picks.

Deus Irae 09-06-2010 09:31 PM

Re: Value? I got your VALUE right here
 
Is the O.P. a dupe account that's just screwing with us?


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