Originally Posted by patfanken (Post 373913)

... since I we won't be signing another WR today....I think. ;)

I went over to an Eagle fan board on KFFL, to see how THEY felt about the Stallworth and subsequent Washington signings. BTW- I was surprised how good they thought the signing was. It was near universal. For the most part they were a good group, and the discussion was interesting and informative... and they ARE NOT happy with their FO.

Anyway, one fan responded to the comment that the Pats don't value the WR position, and then another took the opposite view by stating that if you look at the total value of the contracts they just signed WRs to, how could you say that? That got me thinking so I went to Miguel and checked to see what the WRs corp cap numbers will be next season. (BTW- I am also sure that NONE of the information that follows WILL EVER be used in a media story. From them all you will hear about are $30MM, $18MM, and $10MM contacts. :rolleyes: )





Here's what I found: Stallworth will count $2.7, Welker - $1.7 & Washington approximately $.8MM. (that's a guess since Miguel didn't have him up yet, but I don't think it will be far off, maybe less because its a multiyear deal) That's the princely total of $.5.5MM. Then you can add that to the "huge" cap numbers of Gaffney $.75NN, Caldwell $1.8 & Jackson $.9MM. That's a GRAND TOTAL of $8.9MM for ALL SIX of the Pats WRs that will likely make the team (with Jackson PUPed or IRed)

That's $8.9MM against a cap of over $113MM that the Pats have this year. (This is a higher number because of credits the Pats got) So the Pats will spending LESS than 8% of their cap money on their ENTIRE WR corp. for the 2007 season....NOT BAD

What I found so interesting and I think what sets this FO apart, is that the Pats RADICALLY improved the athletic talent in an area of need, yet MINIMIZED the impact on the cap to a degree that I didn't think was possible. Tip of the hat to Scott and the boys in the FO.

Originally Posted by TheBaronPatriot (Post 373928)

Great work on that research.
I wonder though what the % jumps to next year if the Pats were to keep Stallworth&Washington?

Originally Posted by BelichickFan (Post 373941)

I wish I could find Kelley Washington's cone, etc, splits from the combine. Reading the Pro Football Weekly draft preview from 2003 they go out of their way to mention not just his speed but his quickness and we know how important that is to our WR.

Originally Posted by patfanken (Post 373913)

... since I we won't be signing another WR today....I think. ;)

I went over to an Eagle fan board on KFFL, to see how THEY felt about the Stallworth and subsequent Washington signings. BTW- I was surprised how good they thought the signing was. It was near universal. For the most part they were a good group, and the discussion was interesting and informative... and they ARE NOT happy with their FO.

Anyway, one fan responded to the comment that the Pats don't value the WR position, and then another took the opposite view by stating that if you look at the total value of the contracts they just signed WRs to, how could you say that? That got me thinking so I went to Miguel and checked to see what the WRs corp cap numbers will be next season. (BTW- I am also sure that NONE of the information that follows WILL EVER be used in a media story. From them all you will hear about are $30MM, $18MM, and $10MM contacts. :rolleyes: )

Here's what I found: Stallworth will count $2.7, Welker - $1.7 & Washington approximately $.8MM. (that's a guess since Miguel didn't have him up yet, but I don't think it will be far off, maybe less because its a multiyear deal) That's the princely total of $.5.5MM. Then you can add that to the "huge" cap numbers of Gaffney $.75NN, Caldwell $1.8 & Jackson $.9MM. That's a GRAND TOTAL of $8.9MM for ALL SIX of the Pats WRs that will likely make the team (with Jackson PUPed or IRed)

That's $8.9MM against a cap of over $113MM that the Pats have this year. (This is a higher number because of credits the Pats got) So the Pats will spending LESS than 8% of their cap money on their ENTIRE WR corp. for the 2007 season....NOT BAD

What I found so interesting and I think what sets this FO apart, is that the Pats RADICALLY improved the athletic talent in an area of need, yet MINIMIZED the impact on the cap to a degree that I didn't think was possible. Tip of the hat to Scott and the boys in the FO.

Originally Posted by solman (Post 373919)

Ain't that the truth. You win championships by underpaying for talent, and Belioli are the masters at this.

Originally Posted by upstater1 (Post 373976)

I can understand what you're trying to say but in the long run, it doesn't work this way because, in the end, you're paying $110 million for 53 players. The same goes for each and every team. Someone is getting paid more, someone is getting paid less. When you add up all the numbers, there are no teams in the NFL that pay their players more than other teams (well, maybe the Bengals chintz out but every team that spends to the cap is speninding the exact same amount as other teams.

If you give big money to a small core of players, you won't be able to afford a decent middle class. Just look at the Patriots offensive line. All of them except the right tackles earn $1.5-3.5 million. That's a luxury that not many teams can afford.