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hoosier_patriot 03-06-2007 08:20 AM

how serious is this Moss deal?
 
If the Pats really want Moss (lets say).

They gave up the 2nd pick round For Welker. What do they have to deal with? Who would/could they send out there?
Oakland could use a good QB, but do the Pats send Cassel out there and try to get a QB in the draft? (just a thought to get this started)

What do you guys think could possibly happen? (providing BB & SP really wanted Moss)

Rob0729 03-06-2007 08:27 AM

Re: how serious is this Moss deal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hoosier_patriot (Post 364029)
If the Pats really want Moss (lets say).

They gave up the 2nd pick round For Welker. What do they have to deal with? Who would/could they send out there?
Oakland could use a good QB, but do the Pats send Cassel out there and try to get a QB in the draft? (just a thought to get this started)

What do you guys think could possibly happen? (providing BB & SP really wanted Moss)

I say there is about a 1% chance that a deal would happen. It would require Al Davis to settle for a second day pick and Moss to take a huge pay cut. Even then, the Packers may be willing to give up more in that scenario. The only reason why even give 1% is because hey anything can happen.

JoePats 03-06-2007 08:28 AM

Re: how serious is this Moss deal?
 
First off all, good to see a Pats fan from the bad state.

Second, I doubt they would trade Cassel since there is no other experienced backup on the roster (Vinny retired?). Also he can't possibly be the key to the deal for the Raiders, though their new coach Kiffin did have him at USC.

The Raiders probably want a first round pick, the Pats are saying no. The Pats are probably offering a 4th and it probably won't get done.

BelichickFan 03-06-2007 08:28 AM

Re: how serious is this Moss deal?
 
What we can say with a high probability of being right is that they're serious about trying to add another starting quality WR. Otherwise they wouldn't be thinking about Moss, talking to Stallworth, etc.

PatsWorldChamps 03-06-2007 08:41 AM

Re: how serious is this Moss deal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hoosier_patriot (Post 364029)
If the Pats really want Moss (lets say).

They gave up the 2nd pick round For Welker. What do they have to deal with? Who would/could they send out there?
Oakland could use a good QB, but do the Pats send Cassel out there and try to get a QB in the draft? (just a thought to get this started)

What do you guys think could possibly happen? (providing BB & SP really wanted Moss)

I think it would be for a 3, and Moss takes a huge pay cut

Krazy Koz 03-06-2007 08:44 AM

Re: how serious is this Moss deal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BelichickFan (Post 364043)
What we can say with a high probability of being right is that they're serious about trying to add another starting quality WR. Otherwise they wouldn't be thinking about Moss, talking to Stallworth, etc.

I agree with this 100% and I remember all of our fan concerns last year about Reche and Gaffney being our starters and a lot of fans wanting to make a WR move before the deadline. Maybe BB wanted to wait or had to wait... nonetheless we're adding depth and talent at WR and we we're a few drops away from the SB.

PatsDparty 03-06-2007 08:45 AM

Re: how serious is this Moss deal?
 
It could be a number 3 this year and a pick next year, maybe another 3 or a 2.

Rob0729 03-06-2007 08:45 AM

Re: how serious is this Moss deal?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BelichickFan (Post 364043)
What we can say with a high probability of being right is that they're serious about trying to add another starting quality WR. Otherwise they wouldn't be thinking about Moss, talking to Stallworth, etc.

There has been conflicting reports about the Pats being interested in Moss. Len Pasquerelli quoted a source close to Belichick saying that the Pats' interest in Moss is eroneous.

I think the Moss thing is wishful thinking from the media hoping to have a Parcells/TO type training camp with Belichick and Moss. There has not been one story that has the Pats actually negotiating with the Raiders. All of them say the Pats are interested. At least with Stallworth there is evidence that the Pats are talking with him.

I think the Pats are interested in adding a starting quality WR, but on their terms. Stallworth is willing to take a one year deal from the Pats if he doesn't get a better offer. That is on the Pats' terms. I can't see both Al Davis and Randy Moss coming around to meet the Pats' terms to make a deal.

ivanvamp 03-06-2007 08:48 AM

Re: how serious is this Moss deal?
 
I agree. Clearly, they want to upgrade the WR position even more than they did with the Welker deal. I know Borges lifted the info from another paper, but if it's true that Seattle is dangling Darrell Jackson, I'd rather give them the #28 pick for him than give up a 3rd rounder for Moss. Jackson is an outstanding producer but comes with *way* less baggage.

Moss' 9 year averages: 75 rec, 1189 yds, 15.8 ypc, 11 td
Jackson's 7 year averages: 63 rec, 921 yds, 14.6 ypc, 7 td

If you eliminate Jackson's injury-plagued year in 2005, his averages over the 6 remaining years are: 67 rec, 994 yds, 14.8 ypc, 7.3 td

So his numbers are worse than Moss', but (a) he's 2 years younger than Moss, and (b) he comes with a lot fewer headaches.

John

Fencer 03-06-2007 08:49 AM

Re: how serious is this Moss deal?
 
The Moss rumor pressures Stallworth.

The Pats' interest in Stallworth pressures the Eagles on his behalf.

I think the whole Stallworth thing will get resolved one way or the other before the Moss deal could possibly happen.


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