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Real World 02-13-2007 10:08 PM

Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
This is what that region is like. How do people come to hate so much?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrtjHl9iF7w

http://iran.worldcupblog.org/upload/ahmadinejad_2.jpg

PATRIOTS-80 02-13-2007 10:39 PM

Re: Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
Why did Nazi Germany and Hitler hate the jews?

Tunescribe 02-13-2007 11:02 PM

Re: Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
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Originally Posted by PATRIOTS-80 (Post 340528)
Why did Nazi Germany and Hitler hate the jews?

Part of it was an issue of political control, the other part was Hitler's desire to engineer a genetically "pure" German race.

Patjew 02-13-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
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Originally Posted by Tunescribe (Post 340541)
Part of it was an issue of political control, the other part was Hitler's desire to engineer a genetically "pure" German race.

Very well and succinctly put.

Patjew 02-14-2007 12:09 AM

Re: Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
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Originally Posted by Real World (Post 340493)
This is what that region is like. How do people come to hate so much?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrtjHl9iF7w

I wish that was shocking. Sadly, it's what I've come to expect.

PATRIOTS-80 02-14-2007 02:06 AM

Re: Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
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Originally Posted by Patjew (Post 340570)
I wish that was shocking. Sadly, it's what I've come to expect.

it is very sad.

DarrylS 02-14-2007 04:25 AM

Re: Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Real World (Post 340493)
This is what that region is like. How do people come to hate so much?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrtjHl9iF7w

http://iran.worldcupblog.org/upload/ahmadinejad_2.jpg

This is precisely why we do not do well in this area, we try to apply a western "mindset" and cannot comprehend the deep seated bad blood, we discount historical issues and long time divisions for "quick fixes", many of the issues will exist ad infinitum and no matter what we do will not get better. But there are some who believe we can make it better.

Patters 02-14-2007 06:16 AM

Re: Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
On a brighter note, much of the U.S. had the same attitude towards the blacks until the 1960s, but I would say in took only one generation to turn things around. As many have said, peace between Israel and the Palestinians is key to peace in the region.

Of course, the scary thing is that that clip came from Saudi Arabia, one of our allies and a major owner of our debt.

sdaniels7114 02-14-2007 07:50 AM

Re: Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
I think that they'd always dislike each other; but if the climate there was better there would be much less hate. Its too hot and there's not enough water. Human nature is such that when you're miserable, you're faster to lash out and you lash out more violently. There's also the tendency of people to absolve themselves of guilt (for not walking out of the region thousands of years ago) but to pin the blame on someone else.

What we need to do is invent a weather machine and shoot it at the ME thereby converting their climate to something like Seattle's. Where its never more than a few degrees from 70F [21C] and it rains 4 days out of 5. If we did that two things would happen: 1) 'grunge' music would make a huge comeback, and 2) all the Arabs would sit around coffee houses all day long b!tching about the Jews; but never actually do anything about them.

Patters 02-14-2007 07:56 AM

Re: Would you shake hands with a jew?
 
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Originally Posted by sdaniels7114
I think that they'd always dislike each other; but if the climate there was better there would be much less hate. Its too hot and there's not enough water. Human nature is such that when you're miserable, you're faster to lash out and you lash out more violently.

I think the majority of people want peace and security and have no particular motivation for hate. There are some liberal Jews who work with the Palestinians, and some progressive Palestinians who recognize Israel's right to exist. But, like anywhere, a small part of the population is bitter and hate filled. Most people just want to get on with their daily lives, and don't have much time to hate.

Perhaps a general question is in order. Does anyone here actually know any Arabs and have you found them to be virulently anti-Jewish?


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