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PressCoverage 01-15-2007 03:30 AM

Libby trial begins
 
the real trial of the century, in symbolism, if nothing else:


Many in the hot seat at Libby trial
Members of government, media elite face uncomfortable spotlight

By Carol D. Leonnig

When Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff goes on trial Tuesday on charges of lying about the disclosure of a CIA officer's identity, members of Washington's government and media elite will be answering some embarrassing questions as well.

I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby's case will put on display the secret strategizing of an administration that cherry-picked information to justify war in Iraq and reporters who traded freely in gossip and protected their own interests as they worked on one of the big Washington stories of 2003.

The estimated six-week trial will pit current and former Bush administration officials against one another and, if Cheney is called as expected, will mark the first time that a sitting vice president has testified in a criminal case. It also will force the media into painful territory, with as many as 10 journalists called to testify for or against an official who was, for some of them, a confidential source.

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Drastically different versions of events
U.S. v. Libby boils down to two drastically different versions of the same events in the spring and summer of 2003. The government alleges that Libby was involved in a concerted White House effort to discredit Plame's husband, former U.S. ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, who had publicly accused the Bush administration of twisting information he provided on Iraq's nuclear weapons program. Wilson led a CIA-sponsored mission to Niger a year earlier and found no grounds for claims that Iraq was trying to obtain uranium there.


Eight days after Wilson went public with his claims, Plame's identity as a CIA officer appeared in Novak's column.

The defense says that neither Libby nor the White House sought to retaliate against Wilson and that Libby misspoke to investigators looking into the disclosure because he was overwhelmed by a crush of national security and other matters. He has said he had no motive to lie about the details or timing of conversations he had with reporters.


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Harry Boy 01-15-2007 06:20 AM

Re: Libby trial begins
 
What are they going to do about Sandy Burglar & the guy that puts money in his freezer with his Fried Chicken?

What was Sandy the crook stealing, what was he trying to "cover up" for Billy Blue Dress?

Has the other crook got any more money in his freezer?

PressCoverage 01-15-2007 07:19 AM

Re: Libby trial begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Boy (Post 299937)
What are they going to do about Sandy Burglar & the guy that puts money in his freezer with his Fried Chicken?

What was Sandy the crook stealing, what was he trying to "cover up" for Billy Blue Dress?

Has the other crook got any more money in his freezer?

at what point will you ever be able to address a thread topic without wildly deflecting to some irrelevant non-issue?

PressCoverage 01-15-2007 04:30 PM

Re: Libby trial begins
 
Politics at forefront in Libby trial

By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Potential jurors in the perjury trial of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby likely will be asked their opinions of the Bush administration, political scandals and the Iraq war Tuesday, foreshadowing the political tenor of a lengthy trial.

Libby is accused of lying to investigators about his conversations with reporters regarding outed CIA officer Valerie Plame. Plame's identity was leaked to reporters in 2003 after her husband criticized the Bush administration's prewar intelligence on Iraq.

The leak touched off a political firestorm and an FBI investigation that Libby is accused of obstructing.

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"What is your political party preference? Democrat, Republican, Independent or other?" defense attorneys wrote on their list of proposed jury questions.

"Please describe any feelings you have about Vice President Cheney," they also asked.

U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton has not released his final list of questions but has indicated that such political questions are needed to select a fair jury.

Walton will put those questions to a group of about 60 potential jurors Tuesday. Each juror will then take the stand for follow-up questions from defense attorneys, prosecutors and the judge.

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's proposed list includes questions about what newspapers and magazines jurors read and where they get their news. Fitzgerald also wants to know whether their opinion of Libby's former job would make it hard for them to be fair.

Harry Boy 01-15-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Libby trial begins
 
Who Gives A *****

IcyPatriot 01-15-2007 06:14 PM

Re: Libby trial begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PressCoverage (Post 299968)
at what point will you ever be able to address a thread topic without wildly deflecting to some irrelevant non-issue?


Harry sees the story behind the story and the story behind that.

You only know what you read PC ... you are a sheeple.

PressCoverage 01-16-2007 04:55 AM

Re: Libby trial begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F.B.N. (Post 301868)
Harry sees the story behind the story and the story behind that.

You only know what you read PC ... you are a sheeple.

And you're a jackass, making up deep intellectual vagueness to make it seem I'm missing some big picture... Why don't you expand on that and let us all know what the "story is behind the story", so we can all be better informed... Otherwise, you're just hot air, like your favorite poster above...

If not, here's the story behind the story: Your VP engaged in a coordinated and vindictive effort to jeapardize the NOC status of a known CIA operative overseas.... a direct violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, legislation Ronnie Reagan signed into law in 1982 and passed by House and Senate, after a CIA station chief was assassinated in Greece after being outed by Philip Agee.....

In doing so, your favorite criminal administration effectively cut out more checks and balances by sending a "shot across the bow" to the CIA, that no one would be safe if they exposed the fraudulent message... You don't wonder why the CIA has been near completely purged since 2004, do you? Well, I do... They want yes men.... Sheeple, i believe you put it...

So, if you're not going to thrill us with your pretentious "story behind the story behind the story" that we people who actually read somehow miss because we deal in facts, please give the debate up and go talk about ideology and the merits of the great crusade in another thread.

PressCoverage 01-16-2007 04:57 AM

Re: Libby trial begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Boy (Post 301609)
Who Gives A *****


People who don't have a selective idea of what is a broken law. You're a joke of a poster if you think this trial is trivial... May be time to wake up.

wistahpatsfan 01-16-2007 05:26 AM

Re: Libby trial begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PressCoverage (Post 302754)
And you're a jackass, making up deep intellectual vagueness to make it seem I'm missing some big picture... Why don't you expand on that and let us all know what the "story is behind the story", so we can all be better informed... Otherwise, you're just hot air, like your favorite poster above...

If not, here's the story behind the story: Your VP engaged in a coordinated and vindictive effort to jeapardize the NOC status of a known CIA operative overseas.... a direct violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, legislation Ronnie Reagan signed into law in 1982 and passed by House and Senate, after a CIA station chief was assassinated in Greece after being outed by Philip Agee.....

In doing so, your favorite criminal administration effectively cut out more checks and balances by sending a "shot across the bow" to the CIA, that no one would be safe if they exposed the fraudulent message... You don't wonder why the CIA has been near completely purged since 2004, do you? Well, I do... They want yes men.... Sheeple, i believe you put it...

So, if you're not going to thrill us with your pretentious "story behind the story behind the story" that we people who actually read somehow miss because we deal in facts, please give the debate up and go talk about ideology and the merits of the great crusade in another thread.

I generally agree with the post, but the CIA is not a part of any system of checks and balances. They are under control of the POTUS.

Harry Boy 01-16-2007 06:48 AM

Re: Libby trial begins
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PressCoverage (Post 302755)
People who don't have a selective idea of what is a broken law. You're a joke of a poster if you think this trial is trivial... May be time to wake up.

When is Sandy Burglar going to be arrested and charged with STEALING Government Documents.

When will Uncle Teddy be arrested and charged with MURDER :confused:

Kathleen Wiley misses her Pu$sy.

Who stole all the Silverware out of the White House.

Saddam Is Dead.


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