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PonyExpress 12-12-2006 02:40 PM

Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
The #2 seed is a long shot but still possible. Indy has an atrocious defense, and can lose to Cinci and Miami, especially if Ronnie Brown is back by then. Baltimore, which only defeated Cleveland and Tennessee by 1 pt each earlier in the year, can lose at Pittsburgh and to a motivated Buffalo team. Stranger things have happened in this league...

mgcolby 12-12-2006 02:46 PM

Re: Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
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Originally Posted by PonyExpress (Post 260537)
The #2 seed is a long shot but still possible. Indy has an atrocious defense, and can lose to Cinci and Miami, especially if Ronnie Brown is back by then. Baltimore, which only defeated Cleveland and Tennessee by 1 pt each earlier in the year, can lose at Pittsburgh and to a motivated Buffalo team. Stranger things have happened in this league...


The problem is the Ravens get Cleveland and Buffalo in Baltimore. I can't see them dropping either of those two games. Cleveland might play them tough as they did in the first game but I can't see them beating them. I think they drop the Pit game and finish 12-4. I think the Colts lose to Cincy and Miami and finish 11-5.

It would be a pleasant surprise to see the Colts and Ravens drop two each but I'm not holding my breath.

Rob0729 12-12-2006 03:03 PM

Re: Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
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Originally Posted by mgcolby (Post 260541)
The problem is the Ravens get Cleveland and Buffalo in Baltimore. I can't see them dropping either of those two games. Cleveland might play them tough as they did in the first game but I can't see them beating them. I think they drop the Pit game and finish 12-4. I think the Colts lose to Cincy and Miami and finish 11-5.

It would be a pleasant surprise to see the Colts and Ravens drop two each but I'm not holding my breath.

If we win out and go 12-4, I think in your scenario that we may win the tiebreakers with Baltimore. If they lose to Buffalo in that scenario, we would win the common opponents tie breaker since they would have lost to both Cincy (once) and Buffalo. They also lost to Denver which we beat and we would both have beaten Tennessee. If they beat Buffalo, that tiebreaker is not valid because you need at least four common opponents. The next tiebreaker is strength of victory which until this past weekend, we had the advantage.

Box_O_Rocks 12-12-2006 03:06 PM

Re: Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 260549)
If we win out and go 12-4, I think in your scenario that we may win the tiebreakers with Baltimore. If they lose to Buffalo in that scenario, we would win the common opponents tie breaker since they would have lost to both Cincy (once) and Buffalo. They also lost to Denver which we beat and we would both have beaten Tennessee. If they beat Buffalo, that tiebreaker is not valid because you need at least four common opponents. The next tiebreaker is strength of victory which until this past weekend, we had the advantage.

Minor correction, Denver beat the Pats, again. :enranged:

mgcolby 12-12-2006 03:08 PM

Re: Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
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Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 260549)
If we win out and go 12-4, I think in your scenario that we may win the tiebreakers with Baltimore.

We can't win a tie breaker with Baltimore. They only have two AFC losses and we have 4. The only way we jump Baltimore is if they end up with 5 losses which is more than doubtfull. We lose all tie breakers against Indy, Baltimore and SD.

FortLauderdaleBroncosFan 12-12-2006 03:17 PM

Re: Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
lmfao!! u guys have no chance to beat the jags!

mgcolby 12-12-2006 03:27 PM

Re: Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
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Originally Posted by FortLauderdaleBroncosFan (Post 260568)
lmfao!! u guys have no chance to beat the jags!

Hey Dingleberry,

I would think a fan of a team that is sinking faster than the Titanic would have bigger worries than what the fans of a playoff bound team are discussing? :cool:

Since you're here why not check out this thread:

http://208.109.107.176/new-england-p...ad.php?t=46198

Rob0729 12-12-2006 03:42 PM

Re: Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks (Post 260553)
Minor correction, Denver beat the Pats, again. :enranged:

We both lost to Denver.

Rob0729 12-12-2006 03:45 PM

Re: Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
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Originally Posted by mgcolby (Post 260555)
We can't win a tie breaker with Baltimore. They only have two AFC losses and we have 4. The only way we jump Baltimore is if they end up with 5 losses which is more than doubtfull. We lose all tie breakers against Indy, Baltimore and SD.

Yes we can. If we are tied at at the end of the season, the Ravens will have to lose two more games. All they have left are conference games. So we will both have four conference losses. If they don't lose two more games there is no tiebreaker situations. As long as Baltimore lose two more games and we win out and one of the Ravens' losses is to Buffalo, we have the tiebreaker on Baltimore because we both will have four conference losses and we will be 3-1 against common opponents (Cincy, Buffalo, Denver, and Tennessee) and they will be 2-3. We lost to Denver, they lost to Cincy (once) and Denver and would have lost to Buffalo.

mgcolby 12-12-2006 03:49 PM

Re: Chase for the #2 seed continues
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 260599)
Yes we can. If we are tied at at the end of the season, the Ravens will have to lose two more games. All they have left are conference games. So we will both have four conference losses. If they don't lose two more games there is no tiebreaker situations. As long as Baltimore lose two more games and we win out and one of the Ravens' losses is to Buffalo, we have the tiebreaker on Buffalo because we both will have four conference losses and we will be 3-1 against common opponents and they will be 3-2.

If Baltimore loses two more games they will be 11-5. We would be 12-4 if we win out, thus there would be no tie.


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