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Patfandango 11-29-2006 09:05 AM

How do we beat the Lions
 
I know, with a sharp stick. I did a similar thread last week for the Bears and i thought that it generated some good discussion. By the way, the consensus was run right up the middle and not misdirection which double reverse play pretty much demonstrated.

As I look through the Lions stats, I don't see alot that they're currently good at (Punting seems good but they get more game experience than most). If Kevin Jones is out or not 100%, they effectively don't have a running game. They're one-dimensional (with Kitna really only half-dimensional) and vunerable to pressure. This is a chance to tully to get starting time and his pass rushing should be able to get to Kitna early and often. This team is an enigma: it's focused on offense and done a crappy job at that. How anyone is keeping their jobs is a mystery to me. That said any given sunday... We need to avoid the trap game mentality and we should be fine. I think we use this as a game to focus on fundamentals and work on getting WR roles defined and ball control running game. I'd especially like to see Jackson get a few more tossed his way and Gabriel worked out of the doghouse. More of Maroney in the power game to improve his situational running. Get the ST coverage perfected and Walter back in the swing.

TomBrady'sGoat 11-29-2006 09:08 AM

Re: How do we beat the Lions
 
show up ..

checkedout 11-29-2006 09:17 AM

Re: How do we beat the Lions
 
We just need to take them seriously "any given Sunday" and we should be fine.

BelichickFan 11-29-2006 09:21 AM

Re: How do we beat the Lions
 
Just make sure Roy Williams doesn't beat us singlehandedly and watch the turnovers. I'd say that's about it.

Football Outsiders ranks their offense 23rd and their defense 32nd. That says it all team me, they aren't very good. I love R. Williams though.

FSUPatsFan 11-29-2006 09:21 AM

Re: How do we beat the Lions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBrady'sGoat (Post 250526)
show up ..

when i saw the title of this thread i was going to post this same exact thing.

PatsWickedPissah 11-29-2006 09:22 AM

Re: How do we beat the Lions
 
How do we beat them?
May I suggest that our O score more points than our D allows?
I'll even allow that our STs and D may contribute to our scoring.

Tunescribe 11-29-2006 09:24 AM

Re: How do we beat the Lions
 
Here we go again. We've just come off a huge win so we can't take Detroit lightly. We need to put them away in the first half and get the second string in there. The Patriots are bound to come out flat after last week and can't afford to let the Lions make a game of it.

FSUPatsFan 11-29-2006 09:31 AM

Re: How do we beat the Lions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tunescribe (Post 250537)
Here we go again. We've just come off a huge win so we can't take Detroit lightly. We need to put them away in the first half and get the second string in there. The Patriots are bound to come out flat after last week and can't afford to let the Lions make a game of it.

I disagree. I don't think the Pats will come out flat at all. BB won't let them. If anything they'll come out with greater confidence and put Detroit away in the first half.

Patfandango 11-29-2006 09:48 AM

Re: How do we beat the Lions
 
I agree with FSUPatsfan. I view this as an instructional game on keeping focused and not allowing a letdown. It's good training for the playoffs. Thanks for the keen insight, PWP. That should work every week.:D

edzo44 11-29-2006 09:51 AM

Re: How do we beat the Lions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patfandango (Post 250524)
I know, with a sharp stick. I did a similar thread last week for the Bears and i thought that it generated some good discussion. By the way, the consensus was run right up the middle and not misdirection which double reverse play pretty much demonstrated.

As I look through the Lions stats, I don't see alot that they're currently good at (Punting seems good but they get more game experience than most). If Kevin Jones is out or not 100%, they effectively don't have a running game. They're one-dimensional (with Kitna really only half-dimensional) and vunerable to pressure. This is a chance to tully to get starting time and his pass rushing should be able to get to Kitna early and often. This team is an enigma: it's focused on offense and done a crappy job at that. How anyone is keeping their jobs is a mystery to me. That said any given sunday... We need to avoid the trap game mentality and we should be fine. I think we use this as a game to focus on fundamentals and work on getting WR roles defined and ball control running game. I'd especially like to see Jackson get a few more tossed his way and Gabriel worked out of the doghouse. More of Maroney in the power game to improve his situational running. Get the ST coverage perfected and Walter back in the swing.

My choice is do the moderately unexpected. We almost always go to the "stop the run and make the quarterback have to beat us passing" routine but this is Mike Martz we're talking about here. So we should go opposite, tons of coverage to eliminate the pass game almost totally, release the sack hounds to go after Kitna and morph between the 3-4 and 4-3 a lot. Force them to beat us with the running game because 1.) it ain't really great and 2.) we need time to get our new linebacker corps a lot of run stopping practice now that we've lost Junior.

As far as on offense, the usual, establish the run to eat up time and use play action and screens to keep the drives going, the defense honest and the most open receiver active.


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