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PATSNUTme 09-29-2006 07:27 AM

Borges really HATES Belichick
 
We all know that Borges doesn't lik BB. But, it wasn't until last night watching him on Four Downs With Felger, theat I realized that he really hates Belichick.

This is what he said:

1. When things start falling apart for the Patriots, Belichick will start blaming the ownership, like he did in Cleveland.

2. BB when out and asked Holly and Galbrastat (sorry about the spelling) to write books about him.

In the preface of the Holly book, Holly said that he approached BB and expected to be tossed out. Galb- said that he approached BB about that book.

It's not only what Borges said, it was the look on his face when he said it, that lead me to believe that the dislike is full blown hate.

The Globe should put him on the beat of another sport bercause there is no way he can possibly be objective in his coverage.

Did anyone else see this?

Too bad we can't post a transcript of those statements. Even if we could it still wouldn't give you the look in his eyes when he said it.

I think there is a replay tonight for anyone who is interested.

Brownfan80 09-29-2006 07:30 AM

Re: Borges really HATES Belichick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PATSNUTme
We all know that Borges doesn't lik BB. But, it wasn't until last night watching him on Four Downs With Felger, theat I realized that he really hates Belichick.

This is what he said:

1. When things start falling apart for the Patriots, Belichick will start blaming the ownership, like he did in Cleveland.

2. BB when out and asked Holly and Galbrastat (sorry about the spelling) to write books about him.

In the preface of the Holly book, Holly said that he approached BB and expected to be tossed out. Galb- said that he approached BB about that book.

It's not only what Borges said, it was the look on his face when he said it, that lead me to believe that the dislike is full blown hate.

The Globe should put him on the beat of another sport bercause there is no way he can possibly be objective in his coverage.

Did anyone else see this?

Too bad we can't post a transcript of those statements. Even if we could it still wouldn't give you the look in his eyes when he said it.

I think there is a replay tonight for anyone who is interested.

If I fabricated my work everyday at my job I'd be fired.

I'm not sure how he manages to simply lie through his teeth to try and make points so consistently and still remains employed. It's pretty rediculous.

How can BB blame ownership when he has full control of the team?

BelichickFan 09-29-2006 07:33 AM

Re: Borges really HATES Belichick
 
Most of us can't watch it anymore :(

Regarding Halberstam, he said that Belichick said no to the book until it was presented more in the context of his early childhood with an emphasis on Steve.

Regarding ownership, first I don't remember Belichick blaming Modell other than the move. And when the team announces a move midseason, yeah, I would say the ownership shoulders the responsibility. The Browns went a game into the playoffs, beating Parcells and the Patriots, the year before. Second, Modell was basically broke, which is why he moved, which handcuffed the team in the new FA system. Although I still don't remember Belichick blaming Modell over that. Unless he means years later I guess.

Amnorix 09-29-2006 07:44 AM

Re: Borges really HATES Belichick
 
In other news, the sun is rising in the East today.

PatsDeb 09-29-2006 08:05 AM

Re: Borges really HATES Belichick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix
In other news, the sun is rising in the East today.

And Bogus reported it would be rising in the West.

SVN 09-29-2006 08:14 AM

Re: Borges really HATES Belichick
 
i dont watch felger's show anymore simply because of borges's presence..there is enough overdose of analysis...this board is enough for me to get the analysis of the team ;)

PatsFan37 09-29-2006 08:31 AM

Re: Borges really HATES Belichick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVN
i dont watch felger's show anymore simply because of borges's presence..there is enough overdose of analysis...this board is enough for me to get the analysis of the team ;)

I find Borges more amusing than anything else. Few who have heard his past comments takes him seriously, and I suspect his personal attacks on Belichick are one part true despise and a smaller but definite part that is his trademark position.

Felger clearly admires Borges and is doing his best to carve out his own trademark position as the 'realist'. Which is hard to do when you toss realism aside to seek out a contrary position.

So why do I watch? Russ Francis and Don Banks are knowledgeable commentators who speak what truth they know. Same as watching NE Tailgate for the telestrator analysis -- a small but crucial part that makes it all worthwhile.

I really should record the show and watch it later, so I can skim through the crap.

BTW, here's why I think Reiss is the most balanced of all the commentators. When asked why he sides with team management so much, he replies:

Quote:

I just try to be fair and not initially overreact on many of the situations that come up over time. Because I remember hearing that the Patriots had lost their mind when they traded Drew Bledsoe in the division for a first-round pick. Then I remember hearing their run of success was over after Lawyer Milloy was cut. Then I remember hearing that they couldn't stop the run when nose tackle Ted Washington wasn't re-signed, or that the offensive line would struggle without Damien Woody. There are several more examples, and it seems to me that many are focusing on the next problem, and never going back to close the book on the last problem, or acknowledging that those problems were overcome.
Well said, Mike. Keep those columns coming.

Garbanza 09-29-2006 08:31 AM

Re: Borges really HATES Belichick
 
I met some ESPN Boston radio rep's yesterday. They were asking my opinion on the Boston Sports Radio market. I told them the following:

You could have done better than Felger for the afternoon show. Sure controversy is good and in this market - negative is better than positive because most Boston fans are more comfortable beetching about something. However, he will forever been known as a cheese head from Wisconsin. Sorry. Someone more "local" would have been a better choice.

I told them they could possibly turn off a lot of potential viewers with his FSN show with Borges. They said, "hey, it's good drama." I said, "no. and I tell you why." Felger can get away with "negative" spin because it's "sort-of" thought out, he usually prefaces it with "it's my opinion" and everyone sort of knows he does it for effect. Borges, on the other hand, does it out of hatred. He CLEARLY has an agenda filled with venom. Therein lies the difference. I told them that I do not watch that show BECAUSE of Borges. I told them that I encourage others to do the same too.

I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO STOP WATCHING THE SHOW! THEY WILL GET THE MESSAGE IF WE ALL BAND TOGETHER, PEOPLE!

I encouraged them to check out this site. Let your thoughts be known!!!!!!

SVN 09-29-2006 08:34 AM

Re: Borges really HATES Belichick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Garbanza
I met some ESPN Boston radio rep's yesterday. They were asking my opinion on the Boston Sports Radio market. I told them the following:

You could have done better than Felger for the afternoon show. Sure controversy is good and in this market - negative is better than positive because most Boston fans are more comfortable beetching about something. However, he will forever been known as a cheese head from Wisconsin. Sorry. Someone more "local" would have been a better choice.

He could possibly turn off a lot of poetnetial viewers with his FSN show with Borges. They said, "hey, it's good drama." I said, "no. and I tell you why." Felger can get away with "negative" spin because it's sort-og thought out, he usually prefaces it with "it's my opinion" and everyone sort of knows he does it for effect. Borges, on the other hand, does it out of hatred. He CLEARLY has an agenda filled with venom. Therein lies the difference. I told them that I do not watch that show BECAUSE of Borges. I told them that I encourage others to do the same too.

I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO STOP WATCHING THE SHOW! THEY WILL GET THE MESSAGE WITH WE ALL BAND TOGETHER, PEOPLE!

Thats the most important line...almost all these shows are done for drama not for actually information..and espn is the king of drama

Garbanza 09-29-2006 08:36 AM

Re: Borges really HATES Belichick
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVN
Thats the most important line...almost all these shows are done for drama not for actually information..and espn is the king of drama


As far as Radio goes - does anyone do drama better than 'EEI?


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