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zippo59 09-28-2006 03:55 PM

NFL Live Says Pat's D Too Old
 
I don't agree. The only defensive players who can be considered "up there" are Rodney Harrison, Tedy Bruschi, and Junior Seau, none of which you can really say that their age is really showing through in their play. Harrison has not been his past self but that is most likely due to his injury, and there is reason to beleive his play will improve as his injury improves.

Other than those three players, the rest of the defense is relatively young. Vince Wilfork, Richard Seymour, Ty Warren, Jarvis Green, Mike Wright, Rosevelt Colvin, Mike Vrabel, Tully Banta-Cain, Ellis Hobbs, Eugene Wilson, Asante Samuel, Artrell Hawkins, and James Sanders are all either in the prime of their careers or have yet to enter it. I agree the defense has not played particularly well but I don't think you can blame it on the players being old.

mgcolby 09-28-2006 03:57 PM

Re: NFL Live Says Pat's D Too Old
 
Sometimes you have to wonder if they actually look things up before they spout it off to millions of people.

PonyExpress 09-28-2006 04:04 PM

Re: NFL Live Says Pat's D Too Old
 
Yeah we're too old, that's it... we should have signed Law and McGinest.. that would have fixed it!:D

Jimke 09-28-2006 04:09 PM

Re: NFL Live Says Pat's D Too Old
 
The trouble with the Patriots defense is simply that they are not good

enough. Junior Seau is not as good as Ted Johnson, and Ellis Hobbs

and Asante Samuel are nowhere as good as Ty Law.

zippo59 09-28-2006 04:12 PM

Re: NFL Live Says Pat's D Too Old
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimke
The trouble with the Patriots defense is simply that they are not good

enough. Junior Seau is not as good as Ted Johnson, and Ellis Hobbs

and Asante Samuel are nowhere as good as Ty Law.

The defense seemed to be pretty good last year without those two players.

SoonerPatriot 09-28-2006 04:24 PM

Re: NFL Live Says Pat's D Too Old
 
On the whole this is wrong. Very young on the D-Line. Overall, we're still young in the secondary at corner and safety with Wilson, Hobbs and Samuel.

I do have to say that the day is coming (soon) when a bit of an overhaul is gonna be needed at LB. Tedy (33), Seau (37), Vrabel (31). Colvin just turned 29 and seems like he's gonna be good for awhile. Outside of that the only youth we have his Woods, who's a developmental project and TBC.

HEY BRO! WHAT UP? 09-28-2006 04:25 PM

Re: NFL Live Says Pat's D Too Old
 
There aren't that old. They just need more team speed. Through the first three weeks of the season I have noticed how fast a lot of defenses are and then I look at the Pats D and they don't seem very fast at all.

DarrylS 09-28-2006 04:29 PM

Re: NFL Live Says Pat's D Too Old
 
Amazing that these guys get a paycheck on a regular basis, if they said it was too small, too slow it may have some merit... but too old makes no sense.

SoonerPatriot 09-28-2006 04:30 PM

Re: NFL Live Says Pat's D Too Old
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THEARCHIVES
There aren't that old. They just need more team speed. Through the first three weeks of the season I have noticed how fast a lot of defenses are and then I look at the Pats D and they don't seem very fast at all.

I agree. But I think sometimes team speed and youth are tied together. not always, but there is a correlation. I noticed your last point while watching Jax and Indy on NFL network last night. Jax has some real speed at their LB positions which is really the main place I think we lack speed.


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