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pats1 09-27-2006 03:48 PM

You be the judge: Brady
 
You Be the Judge: Brady.

I will focus on this particular drive in the 4th quarter. Keep in mind it's only a small sample of the game:

Score: 17-7 Denver
Time Start: 5:33 left
Time of Possession: 0:26
Plays: 3
Yards: 0
Drive Started: NE 8
Drive Ended: NE 8
How Obtained: Punt
How Given Up: Punt


1-10-NE8 (5:33) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete deep middle to B.Watson.

Time from snap to release: 3.25 seconds

Snap:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9716/snap4wl4.th.jpg

Throw:

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3746/throw4gk3.th.jpg

Air (first frame or so with both ball and receiver in picture):

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9044/air4ra6.th.jpg

Ball Landing:

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1138/catch4gg5.th.jpg

pats1 09-27-2006 03:49 PM

Re: You be the judge: Brady
 
2-10-NE8 (5:28) (No Huddle, Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete deep left to T.Brown (D.Foxworth) [K.Lang].

Time from snap to release: 2.75 seconds

Snap:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7494/snap3ow0.th.jpg

Throw:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4...row3vr2.th.jpg

Air:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3290/air3by8.th.jpg

Ball Landing:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/503/catch3nr7.th.jpg

pats1 09-27-2006 03:50 PM

Re: You be the judge: Brady
 
3-10-NE8 (5:22) (No Huddle, Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete short left to D.Gabriel.

Time from snap to release: 3.25 seconds

Snap:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8817/snapgo4.th.jpg

Throw:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6352/throwqz5.th.jpg

Air:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5999/airsq9.th.jpg

Ball Landing:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/815/catchcr8.th.jpg

...

The Patriots would punt, get the ball back with 3:36 left in the game. Brady would go 7-for-14 on the drive, ending in an incomplete pass on 4th down to Troy Brown.

It's now your turn. Who was at fault on these incompletions? The protection? The receivers? The play-calling? The throw? The defense? You be the judge.

Oswlek 09-27-2006 03:57 PM

Re: You be the judge: Brady
 
Can you resize those? I get the point you are making, but it would be easier for me to analyze if they were 50% bigger.

DefenseRules 09-27-2006 04:02 PM

Re: You be the judge: Brady
 
Either the Receivers ran the wrong route or Brady was just off on his throws.
Some of those guys were wide open though. Maybe Brady is just not seeing the field accurately, because he seemed to throw the ball in their direction. Maybe it's just timing? :confused:

pats1 09-27-2006 04:03 PM

Re: You be the judge: Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oswlek
Can you resize those? I get the point you are making, but it would be easier for me to analyze if they were 50% bigger.

The thumbnail or the actual picture linked?

Bargod 09-27-2006 04:04 PM

Re: You be the judge: Brady
 
Wait. In the last example. How can the ball land at 5:16 but be in the air at 5:17?

pats1 09-27-2006 04:05 PM

Re: You be the judge: Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bargod
Wait. In the last example. How can the ball land at 5:16 but be in the air at 5:17?

The ball is in the air before it lands. 5:17 comes before 5:16 when the clock is counting down. ;)

Bargod 09-27-2006 04:11 PM

Re: You be the judge: Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pats1
The ball is in the air before it lands. 5:17 comes before 5:16 when the clock is counting down. ;)

Yup, just showing my stupidity. That's what I get for surfing with out a seatbelt. Makes perfect sense.

Oswlek 09-27-2006 04:18 PM

Re: You be the judge: Brady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pats1
The thumbnail or the actual picture linked?

Hello? McFly?

God am I an idiot. I didn't realize that there were any pictures linked. I was sitting there with my face a few inches from the screen trying to figure out what was on the thumbnails.

Anyway, even on the larger pictures linked, I can't tell what is really happening on the first play, but the other two certainly look like there are open receivers. In the second one, the WR looks more open than he is because there is a safety that you can't see in the third frame. However, it definitely looks like there is plenty of room had Brady left the ball more towards the middle of the field.

Gabriel looks like he is open on the last play as well.

One caveat: All of this presuposes that the receivers were where they were supposed to be on the play.


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