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shatch62 09-13-2006 11:03 AM

NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar?All=1

Plenty of room

With the salary cap raised to $102 million this season, it was no surprise to see that most NFL teams have a lot of cap room heading into the season. In fact, 10 teams, lead by Jacksonville, have at least $8 million or more in salary-cap space. The Jaguars are $12.7 million under the cap.

New Orleans has $11 million, Arizona $10.5 million and Minnesota, Houston and New England each have $10.3 million. I guess that means that the Patriots could pay Deion Branch if they wanted to and still have plenty of room. It has to be worrisome to the NFL Players Association that teams like New England and Houston, two of the clubs worth more than $1 billion and both generating revenues among the top 10 in the league, would be keeping the cap money and not spending it.

The teams with the least amount of space are Miami ($550,452), Atlanta ($897,916) and Oakland ($1.127 million).

*****
I love when the players association gets upset that the Pats don’t pay more to its players. What are the Pats suppose to do? Overpay to keep players here? The Pats offered Branch a three-year, $18.75 million extension with a signing bonus of $4 million this year and a $4 million option bonus in 2007. Now this was a low offer considering what guys like Givens got. If the Branch had come back with a counteroffer that was in the line of a signing bonus of $6-7 million this year with the rest of the deal the same it might have got done. Say it happened that way, the Pats available space would be around $3-4 million. Would the players association be OK with that #?

Seriously, name the guys on the team that should be in the top 5 paid at their position?

Brady, Seymour, Bruschi and Harrison. Vrabel is so valuable so I would say he could be a top 5er as well. Anyone else? Nope. Should the Pats over pay because they can? You could argue that the Pats should he signed a free agent or two but they cost more than the Pats thought they were worth. This approach has resulted in the Pats winning 3 SBs in the last 5 years. Hell, last years team was “awful” by recent Pats standards and they still won 10 games. How many team would have won 10 games with the injuries that the Pats had? How many games would the Colts have won if they lost their starting LT, C, RB (and all the back-ups) SS, ILB and DE for numerous games? 10, 9, 8???

The Pats win because they are SMART with their money but if you ask the Players Association they are simply cheap.

grapedog 09-13-2006 11:33 AM

Re: NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
F*** the NFLPA, if they gave two damns about their players they would work to get guarantee'd contracts, but that will never happen with Agents having their hooks into the NFLPA...

mdhprime 09-13-2006 11:49 AM

Re: NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shatch62
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar?All=1

Plenty of room

With the salary cap raised to $102 million this season, it was no surprise to see that most NFL teams have a lot of cap room heading into the season. In fact, 10 teams, lead by Jacksonville, have at least $8 million or more in salary-cap space. The Jaguars are $12.7 million under the cap.

New Orleans has $11 million, Arizona $10.5 million and Minnesota, Houston and New England each have $10.3 million. I guess that means that the Patriots could pay Deion Branch if they wanted to and still have plenty of room. It has to be worrisome to the NFL Players Association that teams like New England and Houston, two of the clubs worth more than $1 billion and both generating revenues among the top 10 in the league, would be keeping the cap money and not spending it.

The teams with the least amount of space are Miami ($550,452), Atlanta ($897,916) and Oakland ($1.127 million).

*****
I love when the players association gets upset that the Pats don’t pay more to its players. What are the Pats suppose to do? Overpay to keep players here? The Pats offered Branch a three-year, $18.75 million extension with a signing bonus of $4 million this year and a $4 million option bonus in 2007. Now this was a low offer considering what guys like Givens got. If the Branch had come back with a counteroffer that was in the line of a signing bonus of $6-7 million this year with the rest of the deal the same it might have got done. Say it happened that way, the Pats available space would be around $3-4 million. Would the players association be OK with that #?

Seriously, name the guys on the team that should be in the top 5 paid at their position?

Brady, Seymour, Bruschi and Harrison. Vrabel is so valuable so I would say he could be a top 5er as well. Anyone else? Nope. Should the Pats over pay because they can? You could argue that the Pats should he signed a free agent or two but they cost more than the Pats thought they were worth. This approach has resulted in the Pats winning 3 SBs in the last 5 years. Hell, last years team was “awful” by recent Pats standards and they still won 10 games. How many team would have won 10 games with the injuries that the Pats had? How many games would the Colts have won if they lost their starting LT, C, RB (and all the back-ups) SS, ILB and DE for numerous games? 10, 9, 8???

The Pats win because they are SMART with their money but if you ask the Players Association they are simply cheap.

What a wacky article. First off the team can be as under the cap as it wants. Secondly, do they not take in to account the possibility of deals being re-done this year? Hmm.

Box_O_Rocks 09-13-2006 12:02 PM

Re: NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
Czarnecki is a tool.

FSUPatsFan 09-13-2006 12:04 PM

Re: NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
The Pats are worth over a billion because of the way they have ran the team the last 6 years. The net worth is a product of winning. We win by not overpaying and having a lot of depth which increases competiton among the roster. We spent up to the cap every other year. Just because the cap was raised doesn't mean we should go and waste all that money right away. I'm sure BB has a plan for that money. Some time in the not so distant future the Pats will be right back near the cap.

14thDragon 09-13-2006 12:08 PM

Re: NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mdhprime
What a wacky article. First off the team can be as under the cap as it wants. Secondly, do they not take in to account the possibility of deals being re-done this year? Hmm.

Actually no it can't. The new CBA has a clearly defined floor for spending. No team is anywhere near it though.

RayClay 09-13-2006 12:11 PM

Re: NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
NFLPA was not quoted in that article. That was completely czarjkljkl's, (sp?) opinion.

basement zombie 09-13-2006 12:12 PM

Re: NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shatch62
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar?All=1
New Orleans has $11 million, Arizona $10.5 million and Minnesota, Houston and New England each have $10.3 million. I guess that means that the Patriots could pay Deion Branch if they wanted to and still have plenty of room. It has to be worrisome to the NFL Players Association that teams like New England and Houston, two of the clubs worth more than $1 billion and both generating revenues among the top 10 in the league, would be keeping the cap money and not spending it.



*****
I love when the players association gets upset that the Pats don’t pay more to its players.

That was pure speculation - the columnist's opinion. No words or content from the NFLPA.

DaBruinz 09-13-2006 12:18 PM

Re: NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
The NFLPA needs to (Please be quiet - edited) and realize that the Patriots could easily cut their free money in half by paying Seymour's roster bonus. They seem to have forgotten that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shatch62
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar?All=1

Plenty of room

With the salary cap raised to $102 million this season, it was no surprise to see that most NFL teams have a lot of cap room heading into the season. In fact, 10 teams, lead by Jacksonville, have at least $8 million or more in salary-cap space. The Jaguars are $12.7 million under the cap.

New Orleans has $11 million, Arizona $10.5 million and Minnesota, Houston and New England each have $10.3 million. I guess that means that the Patriots could pay Deion Branch if they wanted to and still have plenty of room. It has to be worrisome to the NFL Players Association that teams like New England and Houston, two of the clubs worth more than $1 billion and both generating revenues among the top 10 in the league, would be keeping the cap money and not spending it.

The teams with the least amount of space are Miami ($550,452), Atlanta ($897,916) and Oakland ($1.127 million).

*****
I love when the players association gets upset that the Pats don’t pay more to its players. What are the Pats suppose to do? Overpay to keep players here? The Pats offered Branch a three-year, $18.75 million extension with a signing bonus of $4 million this year and a $4 million option bonus in 2007. Now this was a low offer considering what guys like Givens got. If the Branch had come back with a counteroffer that was in the line of a signing bonus of $6-7 million this year with the rest of the deal the same it might have got done. Say it happened that way, the Pats available space would be around $3-4 million. Would the players association be OK with that #?

Seriously, name the guys on the team that should be in the top 5 paid at their position?

Brady, Seymour, Bruschi and Harrison. Vrabel is so valuable so I would say he could be a top 5er as well. Anyone else? Nope. Should the Pats over pay because they can? You could argue that the Pats should he signed a free agent or two but they cost more than the Pats thought they were worth. This approach has resulted in the Pats winning 3 SBs in the last 5 years. Hell, last years team was “awful” by recent Pats standards and they still won 10 games. How many team would have won 10 games with the injuries that the Pats had? How many games would the Colts have won if they lost their starting LT, C, RB (and all the back-ups) SS, ILB and DE for numerous games? 10, 9, 8???

The Pats win because they are SMART with their money but if you ask the Players Association they are simply cheap.


jaychamp 09-13-2006 12:19 PM

Re: NFL Players Association not happy with PATS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grapedog
F*** the NFLPA, if they gave two damns about their players they would work to get guarantee'd contracts, but that will never happen with Agents having their hooks into the NFLPA...

I think not having guaranteed contracts is one of the things that makes the competition in the NFL so great.

How many MLB players get huge contracts and then completely tank? Same thing would happen in the NFL IMO.


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