Cut off your nose to spite your face
 

Yes i know know we cant overpay for players, But c'mon now, it seems some fans would rather end the season season with the most cap space then get talent to win a SB. We still have red zone problems, and despite a solid performance from the offense thus far, it wasnt exactly against world beaters. Childress and Caldwell wont set the world on fire. What is this cap space for. i remember hearing Jonathan kraft 2 weeks ago saying how the Pats were not that thrilled with the salary cap boost but they agreed for labor peace. Is it maybe that the Krafts feel spending 20 million more then they did last year too much. When does it end. I though we were not signing Givens because we had to sign branch, now branch may be headed out of town. if they are not paying Free agents and not paying their own, the franchise better keep winning or the perception around the league will quickly become negative.

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What exactly would you like them to spend it on?

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The fact is we need to start the season with a solid WR corps. Because Brady is so god damn good at spreading the ball, we will never NEED a spectacular WR corps. Even with our great TE's, we need more then Caldwell and Childress. I think we can get by without Branch. We'll be able to get by, but we wont get as far as we'd like.

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A WR would be a very good start :eek:

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I think that the Patriots is over any player and if Branch march we must ourselves make but fragmentation hand grenade that never stops to obtain titles, and I am sure that a weather will be good.

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Did you ever stop to think that maybe you don't know the full story? Like the fact that the Patriots have a 6.66 million bonus to pay to Seymour and they will, most likely, pay that out in the form of a roster bonus this year to give them better cap position in the future.

If it is paid out in the form of a roster bonus, then that is 6.66 million from the 12.5 million under the cap that they are. That would give them LESS than 6 million in free cap space. They need 2-3 million for the #52 & #52 roster spots as well as the 8 practice squadders and the people they've already placed on the IR (Mel Mitchell, Matt Shelton) and any players not in camp (Michael McGrew and Deion Branch). So, that less than 6 million becomes less than 3 million real quick. And the Pats can use that to extend players like Graham, Samuel, or Koppen. Or sign a veteran receiver who gets released.

BB & Pioli are very good with the cap. Give them the credit they deserve.

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Please let us know WHICH WR. Kevin Johnson who is rehabbing from injury? Az-Hakim who is supposedly also rehabbing from injury?

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Such as? Ricky Proehl? Kevin Johnson? Don't say Branch. They already offered him 5 years/31 million/11 million guaranteed. So they already tried to spend it there and he didn't want it.

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The Patriots made what are considered by almost EVERYONE here and in the media and in NFL circles, extremely fair offers to Branch. I don't think they deserve some kind of tarnished rep just b/c #83 and his agent are too stupid to take one of them.

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R T26 your remarks are blasphemous and you are hereby excommunicated

from Pats.Com.

Unfortunately, I agree with you. The Pats are trying to make due with

cheap rookie contracts and veterans from other teams willing to play for

minimum salary.

They don't seem to want to sign or re-sign players whose first contract

has expired and are now due big money.