New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com  Patriots Fan Messageboard

New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/)
-   Political Discussion (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/political-discussion.html)
-   -   Mainstream media caught on Qana photos (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/12/38528-mainstream-media-caught-qana-photos.html)

patsfan13 08-02-2006 01:04 PM

Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
Perhaps the killings in Qana were staged by Hezbollah, and they had willing accomplices in the media.

Quote:

Remember those photos that have been running in the media showing a rescue worker holding a dead child following the Israeli air strike in Qana? The message of those pictures has been powerful: look at what those evil Israelis did to that poor, innocent child. Well, now we learn that all may not be what it seems.

Many of those pictures were taken by the photographers for wire services like the Associated Press, Reuters and the always pro-terrorist Agence France-Presse, also known as AFP. But an enterprising British blogger decided to dig a bit deeper. He looked at the time stamp on some of the photos and noticed a discrepancy. A big one.

Without getting too technical, it was noticed that one of the photos taken at 7:21 by the AP shows a dead girl in an ambulance. Then, in a picture taken at 10:25am ... 3 hours later .... it shows the same girl being loaded into an ambulance. Yet another picture shows the same girl 20 minutes later, being carried by a rescue worker ... with no ambulance around.

In the ambulance ... out of the ambulance ... no ambulance at all. What does this tell us? The photos were staged. They're propaganda. Who would do such a thing? Hezbollah, of course. And why would the media be a willing accomplice in such a bold attempt to invent negative media coverage against Israel? Because they hate the United States and/or Israel, or because they're just plain on the side of the Islamofascists.

Now that the wire services and their photographers have been called out on it, they're all dancing on the head of a pin trying to explain away the discrepancy. They've been nailed as willing participants in the Islamic terror propaganda efforts.
Dead children used as political props. This is a continuing pattern we see wherever Terrorist are involved: Iraq, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon. Afganistan. Of course the media eats it up and feeds it to the public in the West.

Since this tatic works so well for the terrorist why not continue using it. Funny this was caught by a private blogger in England rather than a professional journalist. Then again it was interested people on the web rather than the professional journalist community that uncovered Rather's document forgery.

patsfan13 08-02-2006 01:17 PM

Re: Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
Interesting find by the IDF from strategy page. I'm sure this will show up on all the newsprograms this evening /scarcasm.

Quote:

Hizbollah Caught Planning an Atrocity
August 2, 2006: Israeli troops operating in south Lebanon captured a Hezbollah safe house, and found the usual weapons and other equipment, as well as a supply of Israeli Defense Force uniforms. This indicated plans to stage a major "atrocity." Committed, as the evidence would clearly show, by Israeli troops. But perhaps this will never happen, for Israeli raids into southern Lebanon have captured many Hizbollah documents, as well as some live Hizbollah members. These, combined with Israeli electronic eavesdropping, reports from agents inside Lebanon, give the Israelis a pretty good idea of what Hizbollah is up to. Without much fanfare, Israeli commandos and aircraft will respond to Hizbollah plans.


Harry Boy 08-02-2006 01:18 PM

Re: Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
The honeymoon is over for the CNN CBS crowd, EYES are everywhere, watching them. :singing:

They can still lie if they want but now they will be caught.

:singing:

Turk 08-02-2006 03:51 PM

Re: Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patsfan13
Interesting find by the IDF from strategy page. I'm sure this will show up on all the newsprograms this evening /scarcasm.

PF13,
With all due respect, these are actual photos that you are trying to discredit, and your source is a blogger?
This blogger is claiming that the AP photographer is a Hizbollah terrorist accomplice?
Is the Red Cross infiltrated and taken over by terrorists as well, is the UN, BBC, Reuters, France-Presse, because they are claiming and photographing one thing and your blogger is discreting them, by the time stamp on a photo, from his living room?
Could this be the same blogger that "discredited" the never-to-be-found WMD accusations, claiming that they actually were discovered?
There are live broadcasts, photos, interviews, and the while world (except for 2 countries) including the UN on one side, and there is your blogger on the next.
I think, I will go with the former.

Turk 08-02-2006 03:58 PM

Re: Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
How about this open letter in a Jewish publication, by a Turk of Jewish heritage:



Dear Prime Minister,
I am writing to express my deepest concern about the killing of more
than 300 civilian Lebanese, including dozens of children, by Israeli
air strikes in Lebanon in the week since 12 July. Hundreds of other
civilians have been injured during those attacks as well.
During their air strikes, the Israeli forces have also damaged
civilian infrastructure throughout Lebanon. They have deliberately
targeted and destroyed dozens of bridges, roads, powers stations, the
international airport and ports, grain silos and other facilities.
Hundreds of thousands of civilians have been forced to flee their
homes, notably in South Lebanon and in the suburbs of the capital,
Beirut. Such attacks are a blatant breach of international
humanitarian law and some amount to war crimes.
Amnesty International condemns unreservedly attacks by Hizbullah
against Israeli civilians and continues to campaign against such
attacks, including the launching of "katyusha" rockets into Israel.
The organization is campaigning to put pressure on Hizbullah to
immediately end such attacks, which have killed 15 Israeli civilians
since 12 Julyl. Since the capture by Hizbullah of two Israeli
soldiers, on 12 July, Amnesty International has been calling for them
not to be harmed and to be allowed immediate access to the
International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).

I urge you to take urgent steps to put an immediate end to deliberate
attacks by Israeli forces against civilian and civilian property and
infrastructure in Lebanon. These attacks constitute collective
punishment. I call on you to end the use of excessive and
disproportionate force, and to ensure that Israeli forces respect the
principle of proportionality when targeting any military objective or
civilian objective that may be used for military purposes.

Yours sincerely,

Izzet Fresko MD
Professor of Rheumatology
Cerrahpasa Medical Faculty
University of Istanbul
Turkey

Turk 08-02-2006 03:58 PM

Re: Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
How about the Jews for peace organization?
Are they Jews that have been bought by terrorists?
The events being held all over the world by Jews that are against this atrocity, are they all staged?
The attempts at discrediting the reports of this atrocity are futile at best, not to mention immoral.
Children are dying terrible deaths, what else should it take to ask for an immediate cease-fire?
Where is our humanity?

Patters 08-02-2006 04:30 PM

Re: Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
Patsfan13,
Are suggesting that either Israel or Hezbelloh are terrorists, depending on who was responsible for the tragedy at Qana? Or can only those you oppose be terrorists?

Once again, you go out on the limb, searching for the rare piece of evidence that would exonerate those you back. (Perhaps in all those boxes in Iraq there's a note from a bureaucrat on which you can hinge your arguments?) The ludicrous paragraph you posted seems to tell us that the photographer didn't have his cameras set to the right time. Interesting they showed a three hour time difference, like from the west to the east coast. But, when the evidence is lacking, I suppose you use whatever's available.

patsfan13 08-02-2006 05:10 PM

Re: Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turk
PF13,
With all due respect, these are actual photos that you are trying to discredit, and your source is a blogger?
This blogger is claiming that the AP photographer is a Hizbollah terrorist accomplice?
Is the Red Cross infiltrated and taken over by terrorists as well, is the UN, BBC, Reuters, France-Presse, because they are claiming and photographing one thing and your blogger is discreting them, by the time stamp on a photo, from his living room?
Could this be the same blogger that "discredited" the never-to-be-found WMD accusations, claiming that they actually were discovered?
There are live broadcasts, photos, interviews, and the while world (except for 2 countries) including the UN on one side, and there is your blogger on the next.
I think, I will go with the former.

Whether this scanm was uncovered by a blogger or not is quite besides the point. The issue is the time stamps on the photographs that show pictures of the dead child being put into the ambulance and photographs taken LATER showing the child being removed from the rubble. The only thing one can logically infer is that the child was being used as a prop by the terrrorist.

If you have another explaniation please present it

patsfan13 08-02-2006 05:22 PM

Re: Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
BTW here is a link to the blog with the photo's and the time stamp info and the sequence.

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/200...ilking-it.html

Pujo 08-02-2006 05:32 PM

Re: Mainstream media caught on Qana photos
 
Just to throw something out there... do we know if these pictures were taken with the same camera? A time stamp is useless if the camera's clock isn't set to the right time. While staging atrocities would seem right up their alley, I just don't see this as any kind of reliable evidence.

Plus, if they had staged this elaborate hoax, don't you think they would have checked the timestamp? Granted, they could have f--ked that up, but it's tough to get past the clock issue.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:18 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC