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scout 07-10-2006 11:23 PM

Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
Isn't it about time we ban the production of cig's in the U.S.? I choose not to smoke, but have to inhale this poison through second hand smoke, which is just as hazardous as smoking.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/07/10....ap/index.html

BelichickFan 07-10-2006 11:26 PM

Re: Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
It's Bush's fault.

IcyPatriot 07-11-2006 12:47 AM

Re: Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scout
Isn't it about time we ban the production of cig's in the U.S.? I choose not to smoke, but have to inhale this poison through second hand smoke, which is just as hazardous as smoking.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/07/10....ap/index.html


Smoking and Alcohol contribute greatly to much death and social problems in this country. Yet, our government derives great income from both. I have never understood this...always seemed backwards to me.

The government is always coming up with things to be banned and yet banning smoking legally (like a drug) has never come close to happening.

Many states have adopted no smoking policies...but like a war...the death toll is staggering before the enabler learned the lesson.

As per the production of cigarettes...not sure that would work. Many people are already buying tobacco and rolling their own to save money. BTW...Uncle Sam still gets his large cut of the pie from tobacco sales also.

Cigarettes, Booze, and Gasoline taxes...will always enable the highest consumption possible.

BelichickFan 07-11-2006 07:07 AM

Re: Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F.B.N.
The government is always coming up with things to be banned and yet banning smoking legally (like a drug) has never come close to happening.

Remember when they tried to ban alcohol ? I've never smoked a cigarette in my life but I can imagine the uproar if they tried to ban them.

QuiGon 07-11-2006 10:01 AM

Re: Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scout
Isn't it about time we ban the production of cig's in the U.S.? I choose not to smoke, but have to inhale this poison through second hand smoke, which is just as hazardous as smoking.

Fortunately, there are fewer and fewer instances of anyone ever having to inhale second hand smoke. Virtually all workplaces and public settings are now smoke free. The lone holdouts are bars and restaurants but even those are getting more and more regulated. But I think a complete ban on smoking would be pretty difficult to implement, don't you..?

Besides, here's a dirty little secret: The government is as addicted to tax revenues from cigarette sales as the smokers are addicted to nicotine.

scout 07-11-2006 10:19 AM

Re: Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
The bottom line is that the sale of tobacco should be banned. No, this will not happen for the same reason FDR taxed social security, it produces money. In addition, the people in power get huge contributions from big tobacco. Thus, you hear politicians state, milk is just as dangerous as cigarettes (Dole). There is no legitimate argument in defense of tobacco, it has no redeeming qualities. My guess is we are the leading exporter of tobacco, in another 20 years this will help us in our goodwill department overseas. At least with exporting military arsenal you can make a case for it. JoeSixPack stated in a previous thread that it would have a devastating economic impact on southern states which made sense until you break it down, weigh the detriments of tobacco vs the economy of a number of southern states. So, we plant different crops, pay farmers not to plant, whatever it takes. Heck, if we can lose track of 8 billion dollars in Iraq we can re-invent our poisonous farm land. It would not be prohibition. If people need to grow it, roll it, or get it in the black market, so be it. Right now 20% of U.S. smoke cigarettes. Stop over-the-counter sales and that is going to drop dramatically. I really don't care if you smoke. I care when I have to breath it. I care that my four and five year old daughters will have to deal with it in 10 years. Our government, tries to circumvent court rulings over an individual who is comatose, is outraged in regards to gay marriage, but turns a blind eye towards an addictive deadly product.

Mainefan 07-11-2006 10:38 AM

Re: Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
A complete ban on cigarette smoking would be both impossible and undesirable. The last thing we need is a return to prohibition. People will smoke in the privacy of their homes and their cars until smoking is universally disapproved of then they will quit of their own accord.

wistahpatsfan 07-11-2006 11:36 AM

Re: Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scout
The bottom line is that the sale of tobacco should be banned. No, this will not happen for the same reason FDR taxed social security, it produces money. In addition, the people in power get huge contributions from big tobacco. Thus, you hear politicians state, milk is just as dangerous as cigarettes (Dole). There is no legitimate argument in defense of tobacco, it has no redeeming qualities. My guess is we are the leading exporter of tobacco, in another 20 years this will help us in our goodwill department overseas. At least with exporting military arsenal you can make a case for it. JoeSixPack stated in a previous thread that it would have a devastating economic impact on southern states which made sense until you break it down, weigh the detriments of tobacco vs the economy of a number of southern states. So, we plant different crops, pay farmers not to plant, whatever it takes. Heck, if we can lose track of 8 billion dollars in Iraq we can re-invent our poisonous farm land. It would not be prohibition. If people need to grow it, roll it, or get it in the black market, so be it. Right now 20% of U.S. smoke cigarettes. Stop over-the-counter sales and that is going to drop dramatically. I really don't care if you smoke. I care when I have to breath it. I care that my four and five year old daughters will have to deal with it in 10 years. Our government, tries to circumvent court rulings over an individual who is comatose, is outraged in regards to gay marriage, but turns a blind eye towards an addictive deadly product.

When the government began to regulate individual adult choices, combined with government compensation of skyrocketing hospital costs, they now fell that they have acquired the right to ban this and regulate that for our own good.
Things happen for a reason. I have no problem with the government enforcing laws that forbid a company like Philli Morris to be able to lie and poison the People. Illness and death due to cigarettes are much higher in this country due to the fact that American companies infuse tobacco with toxic chemicals and preservatives. If you roll your own with organic tobacco or smoke weed, you will be much happier and healthier than if you did a pack of Marlboros a day. This enforcement power the government legitimately has extends to pesticides and anti-biotics used by the giant farming corporations and food processors as well as environmental polluters who knowingly contaminate the air and water.

Instead of creating more laws that will result in the confiscation of property, imprisonment, or worse, the government should begin enforcing laws that already exist and stop collecting cash from special interest lobbies that gain favoritism and protection from the law.

Blue Collar 07-11-2006 12:23 PM

Re: Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
Hey wistah is the wormsway way grow shop still in buisness, I think it's in wistah/webster area? If the gov't bans tobacco , I will purchase grow lights or find a tobacco supplier from N.C..

PATSNUTme 07-11-2006 12:38 PM

Re: Tobacco could kill 1 Billion this Century
 
If it is as bad as everyone says it is then it should be banned. But, instead they raise taxes on addicted people. Yes, our government has real compassion, don't they.

Then the give another class of addicted people SSI which is used to buy new drugs or alcohol and ruin SS.

I do have to laugh seeing tobacco was orininally a crop of the Indians and was give as a gift to the Europeans. Then they traded for it. Then the Europeans took it over. Revenge!!:)


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