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IcyPatriot 07-02-2006 06:44 PM

Who Cares About Soldiers?
 
http://bluestarchronicles.com/2006/0...bout-soldiers/


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Blue Star Chronicles
weblogNobody Cares About Soldiers
Saturday, July 1st, 2006 at 8:53 pm by beth

Yesterday an American Soldier told me that nobody cares about Soldiers. There wasn’t the tiniest hint of self-pity in his words. It was stated as fact, just simple cynical fact.

Me, being me, declared ‘YES they do. Many people do. The AMERICAN PEOPLE CARE!‘ I said it with passion and conviction.

‘Why do you think that?’, I asked.

‘We are pawns in a political game.’ he replied. He told me about how the guys over there all talk about it - privately. They see the news, they hear what people say. They know they are expendable.

‘It’s disheartening’, he said. Again said not with self-pity - just as fact.

I went into a tirade about how the loudest people are getting all the press and that he shouldn’t let that influence his attitude. I told him that most people, MOST people understand and know what they are doing there. Most people love and appreciate them and what they are doing. I told him that the average person isn’t like John Murtha, or John Kerry, or Air America, or any of the other narcissists that are willing to use the Soldiers’ lives for their own political gain.

In fact, I told him, most people despise those people for their carelessness with the lives of our Soldiers.

He listened, or didn’t listen, but he waited till I finished my onslaught in defense of the American people. Then he replied. ‘We know.’ That’s all. Just ‘we know’.

I felt like crying. I still feel like crying over it. I wanted to jump through the phone and make him understand that people do care. What he is doing is honorable and the people are behind them 100%.

But I’m powerless to make him understand. I’m powerless to make people understand how harmful words can be. I’m powerless to change anything.

All of this was in response to me asking him some questions about what they are doing. He skirted around my questions, but he finally started telling me what he could about his work.

‘We are having to train our troops to not shoot until we are certain that we are being shot at.’ He said they were training the troops to not shoot just because someone is shooting, they have to make sure they are shooting at them.

I asked, ‘What - you have to wait till you’re shot before you shoot?’. ‘Pretty much,’ he replied.

He told me that after the incident in which two Soldiers had been mutilated he had to have a long talk with his men about saving the last bullet for themselves should they find themselves over run.

‘You have to ask yourself, would you rather your mother get a letter that you died in battle or that you died mutilated with your penis cut off and crammed down your throat.’ he told his men.

He told me about ‘cultural sensitivity’ courses they are being required to take. He said the word around is that everybody is skittish about the ever present cameras and newsmen. They have to make sure nothing can be interpreted in the press to make the Americans out to be the bad guys.

‘Everybody’s afraid to pull the trigger. If you don’t pull the trigger, you might be killed, if you pull the trigger you could be ending your career.’ He added, ‘They’d really rather us be killed than get any bad press. So we aren’t supposed to pull the trigger.’

I’m watching Israel go after one Soldier. They refuse to leave this one Soldier to the horrible fate that the Palestinians undoubtedly would have in store for him. The news is calling it a ’stand-off’. It’s not a stand-off. Israel is beating the daylights out of them. But the press is doing all it can to give the Palestinians hope that they might be able to live through a real all out assault by Israel.

Why won’t America do that? Why does America tie the hands of our troops? Why don’t we kick the press out of the platoons and let them do what they need to do? Why would we RATHER OUR SOLDIER’s be killed than get bad press?

We are getting bad press ANYWAY. I’d rather the world RESPECT us than like us. No one can respect THIS kind of weak, lily-livered fighting.

It’s all so silly and at the same time so sad.

How does a mother stand having her child in this battle with the worst of the enemies being the American media and progressives who would see our Soldiers dead than admit there is a real threat from the islamic world.

I thought we learned that lesson in Vietnam.
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patsfan13 07-02-2006 07:16 PM


Great article. Why does the press try to constantly try to denigrate our troops?

Why try make terrorist into sympathetic figures?

Harry Boy 07-02-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13
Great article. Why does the press try to constantly try to denigrate our troops?

Why try make terrorist into sympathetic figures?

Because they hate Bush.

If Fonda Kerry were running the war they would all be joining the Army.

Hollywood would be selling "War Bonds"

"Thats Right Harry" :rocker:

mikey 07-02-2006 10:04 PM

Who cares about the soldiers??

Not George Bush.

When asked to comment about the 2,500 dead American boys, George Bush's spokesman Tony Snow shrug and said, "It's just a number."

If the man who sent the 2,500 dead American boys to their death consider these dead soldiers as mere statistics, it shouldn't be a surprise that the soldiers feel that nobody cares about them.




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PatsFanInEaglesLand 07-02-2006 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NEM
You are **** ing ridiculously brainwashed, frickin fool. Wake up to the truth, for a change...you are like a 12 year old kid who has no sense of reality. That is a lot of bullcrap, a lot of bullcrap. You need a lrude awakening tro the real world, not your lfrickin neo con bllcrap fromthe likes of the Hannitys of this world.

No one denigrates the troops...only in your frickin mind. Wake up little boy.

Sorry fool, you are the one brainwashed by left wing websites and idiots on talk radio, like that fool Ed Shultz. You need to wake up and see what you and your kind is doing to this country, tearing it apart for political gain. You and your kind is the ones always mentioning blue and red. This is the UNITED States of America, not the red and blue DIVIDED states of America that you try to convince everyone of. Your buddies the liberal elitists could not believe that such a simpleton could beat 2 stuffed shirts like he did, now it is thier sole goal to tear us down, and you are a pawn and they are playing you well, what a sucker you are.

IcyPatriot 07-02-2006 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey
Who cares about the soldiers??

Not George Bush.

When asked to comment about the 2,500 dead American boys, George Bush's spokesman Tony Snow shrug and said, "It's just a number."

If the man who sent the 2,500 dead American boys to their death consider these dead soldiers as mere statistics, it shouldn't be a surprise that the soldiers feel that nobody cares about them.
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/008754.php


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QUESTION: Tony, American deaths in Iraq have reached 2,500. Is there any response or reaction from the President on that?

SNOW: It's a number.No use of "JUST" here And every time there's one of these 500 benchmarks, people want something.

The president would like the war to be over now. Everybody would like the war to be over now. And the one thing that we saw in Iraq this week is further testimony to the quality of the men and the women who are doing that, and the dedication and determination to try to ensure that the people of Iraq really do live in a free, effective democracy of their own creation and design.

Any president who goes through a time of war feels very deeply the responsibility for sending men and women into harm's way and feels very deeply the pain that the families feel. And this president is no different.

You've seen it many times. You saw it. You saw it when he was in that ballroom. You had this crowd of service men and women who were cheering loudly for the president, and he got choked up.

So it's always a sad benchmark.


PatsFanInEaglesLand 07-02-2006 10:23 PM

:wha:

mikey is a fa king liar, never seen that coming:cool:

Blue Collar 07-02-2006 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanInEaglesLand
Sorry fool, you are the one brainwashed by left wing websites and idiots on talk radio, like that fool Ed Shultz. You need to wake up and see what you and your kind is doing to this country, tearing it apart for political gain. You and your kind is the ones always mentioning blue and red. This is the UNITED States of America, not the red and blue DIVIDED states of America that you try to convince everyone of. Your buddies the liberal elitists could not believe that such a simpleton could beat 2 stuffed shirts like he did, now it is thier sole goal to tear us down, and you are a pawn and they are playing you well, what a sucker you are.

http://www.depresident.com/george-bu...joke-video.asp

It's the president's action that are hurting this country.....

patsfan13 07-02-2006 10:43 PM

The President has met with many of the families, inprivate rrahter than making a specitale or photo op out of it. That will be hard for many to understand. You may not like him or his policies, but he is a decent man.

PatsFanInEaglesLand 07-02-2006 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Collar
http://www.depresident.com/george-bu...joke-video.asp

It's the president's action that are hurting this country.....

Yeah it was a stupid joke(BTW, happened over 2 years ago), that doesn't mean what we are trying to accomplish in Iraq is wrong. Why are you bringing that up now? Are you trying to unite everyone?

Have you heard what has come out of the mouths of democrats?

I don't like bloggers, but this one pretty much nailed it!

http://www.epinions.com/content_4140998788


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