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Keegs 06-27-2006 09:31 PM

Why is it a bad Idea to Trade Branch???
 
I've seen people get their heads ripped off today for suggesting this. So i'd like to take the brunt of the abuse because i would actually like to hear why.

I might have missed something but i didn't read anything that said WHY trading Branch is a bad idea. All i read was insults, garbage about how many posts people have, and how stupid it was of an idea.

why is it so absurd?
what is wrong with trading branch if he asks for too much money?
am i missing something?
Is it because our WR position is so thin right now? (we could trade for WR and pick(s))
Im not being a wisea$$, i seriously want to know because i didn't think it was that ridiculous. He has made great contributions but if hes gotta go hes gotta go.
I am not saying we have to do one thing or the other. But if he wants Wayne money and wont settle for less, i'd say nice knowing ya Deion.

I think some people on here need to tone it down but i respect what most of you have to say as Pats fans. With such strong feelings againist this idea, you must have a good reason. Please fill me in.

drpatriot 06-27-2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keegs
I've seen people get their heads ripped off today for suggesting this. So i'd like to take the brunt of the abuse because i would actually like to hear why.

The reasoning behind not trading him is because there is no reason to do so, other than if his holdout extends into the regular season. If we trade Branch, we lose a cheap #1 WR (sure, a low-tier #1, if you must) and get (probably) a 2nd-round pick, maybe some Day 2's added on or instead a 1st-round pick. If we don't trade Branch, we get a cheap #1 WR for a year, then we can resign him. If he doesn't want to resign, we franchise him and trade him for (probably) a 2nd-round pick, maybe some Day 2's added on or instead a 1st-round pick. There is no reason to trade Branch; he is cheap and still tradeable at the end of the year when his contract runs out if we make him the franchise player. Plus, there's a minute chance we might get Branch to resign with us if we keep him, which is a benefit in itself.

pats1 06-27-2006 10:01 PM

Why? Because it's a hell of a lot easier to just come to an agreement with this one player without implicating other teams and other players. I wouldn't this was specifically started by Branch. Agents have a lot of say in the process. I'm sure Branch just wants it to be down and over with more than he wants to get a big pay day. This situation is not nearly as bad as it's made out to be. Just another day of business. It's the media that's making him out to be some greedy, disloyal player who'll do anything he can to get top money. I don't even know why the idea of trading him comes up. Like I just said - this is just another day of business for the Patriots and Branch. Don't get yourself into thinking he's going T.O., Lawyer, or Ty on the Pats.

Remix 6 06-27-2006 10:04 PM

b.c who can we get in return? we need him for this season..hes our SB MVP..Brady's favorite target..big plays in playoffs. he can be amazing anywhere else..he can be a Moss/Smtih small WR with speed and quickness but the way our offense is..hes not going to be a 1400 WR. so since hes here..hes not worth top #1 WR money.

spacecrime 06-27-2006 10:05 PM

You don't need a reason to not trade a guy.

You need a reason to trade him.

Nobody gets traded unless there is a driving reason to do so.

And the fact that a guy missed a minicamp s not a reason to trade him. It is over-reaction.

Digger44 06-27-2006 10:13 PM

Keegs, shut up already.

PatsFanInVa 06-27-2006 10:41 PM

My personal spin on it is that we're not at that point yet. Quite likely the Pats and Branch's people continue to talk, with both sides understanding he's missed a minicamp, and may or may not be willing to miss training camp time. So as of now, he's a good player in the midst of negotiations, not a malcontent we need to shop post-haste. Of course, if some other team with a brilliant wideout came to us with a trade offer, based on that player being a workaholic who bothers management by asking them to keep the lights on in the practice dome after hours...

But why would another team want to trade us a guy of equal or greater value, while ours is in the midst of negotiations? They'd have to take the hit on his new status, not us, and in return, they'd be trading someone who we assume to be of equal or greater on-the-field value. Well, what's that guy's contract? The Pats DO still have to pay him.

In this wide world of football possibilities, I guess it could happen that someone really wants to unload a really good wideout, who happens to have a pretty stingy contract, and who therefore would just be a no-brainer from the Pats POV... Or maybe a team who wants to get rid of such a guy so bad they will eat some of the player's cost. But then, that usually happens for character reasons, and the Pats usually avoid the head cases. The counterexample for this last scenario is Dillon, of course -- the apparent sulky head case who turns out to be a high character guy in a bad environment.

But barring an aberation, I see this as the time to get the Branch deal done, not to get the "next" branch acclimated to the system.

Just my 2 cents' worth,

PFnV

Johnny Z 06-27-2006 10:47 PM

Basically they would be trashing the product they want to trade.

So right off the bat, how do you get anything for a young player with an astonishing post-season record, including a SB MVP, who you've deemed unworthy for a raise and unnecessary to the organization.

But I know how you feel. When Javonna Walker, fresh out of workouts with Terrell Owens, hired Drew, I told Packer posters the Packers should trade him while they could get something. They called me every name in the book. After that he held out, blew out his knee in the first game, and demanded to be traded or he would retire.

maverick4 06-27-2006 11:28 PM

re
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digger44
Keegs, shut up already.

Seriously.

Keegs 06-28-2006 12:14 AM

Guys, great answers. I found it interesting and agree with what a lot of you said. Like i said before i didn't know what to do with him, i just don't want to see him get Reggie Wayne Money, thats all. Good answers tho.

Digger and Maverick i was messin around with you earlier and that was fun.

But i just gave you two morons a chance to show you have any kind of original thought and your credability just went down the ****ter in my opinion. It'll be a pleasure ignoring your future posts since they probably don't have much more substance than the two i read in this thread. This was ur chance to justify ripping on that guy earliier but instead you just prove you know nothing about the subject. You should have just said that before.

Not one original thought. Figures.


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