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FredFromDartmouth 03-13-2010 11:43 AM

Trading up: who?
 
I know that this is idiotic; the Patriots rarely trade up and it especially does not make sense in this year's draft but let's be a little silly on this one...

If the Patriots decide to trade up, say ten picks, in the first round, who would they take?

My vote would be Joe Haden, CB. A shutdown corner frees up an extra guy to blitz; this is how Rex Ryan can get away with it. I know that all you guys have some full-length-fur-coat-wearing, strip-club-attending, prima donna big wide receiver in mind, but a shutdown CB is more valuable. Or a pass rusher for that matter.

Note: I have to confess that Ty Law had a full-length fur coat....and he is one of my favorite players; the Patriots have never been able to replace his sticky hands in the secondary. Haden would and then some. 8 int's last year I believe.

livinginthe past 03-13-2010 11:48 AM

Re: Trading up: who?
 
You preface your post with a statement that it is 'idiotic' yet you still find the need to do it?

You don't have to make a post about every little insignificant thought that passes though your head.

crowell33 03-13-2010 11:54 AM

Re: Trading up: who?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FredFromDartmouth (Post 1758122)
I know that this is idiotic; the Patriots rarely trade up and it especially does not make sense in this year's draft but let's be a little silly on this one...

If the Patriots decide to trade up, say ten picks, in the first round, who would they take?

My vote would be Joe Haden, CB. A shutdown corner frees up an extra guy to blitz; this is how Rex Ryan can get away with it. I know that all you guys have some full-length-fur-coat-wearing, strip-club-attending, prima donna big wide receiver in mind, but a shutdown CB is more valuable. Or a pass rusher for that matter.

Note: I have to confess that Ty Law had a full-length fur coat....and he is one of my favorite players; the Patriots have never been able to replace his sticky hands in the secondary. Haden would and then some. 8 int's last year I believe.

This is not idiotic. The Patriots traded up for both Ty Warren and Mayo. I think it worked out well both times and BB would considerate it again under the right circumstances. However, this may not be the year to trade down. There are currently 53 players with first round grades. My bet is that they trade down from their first round spot for additional picks.

( I think BB would like a late 2, 3 and 5 for his first round pick at #22 ).

FredFromDartmouth 03-13-2010 12:00 PM

Re: Trading up: who?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by livinginthe past (Post 1758126)
You preface your post with a statement that it is 'idiotic' yet you still find the need to do it?

You don't have to make a post about every little insignificant thought that passes though your head.

Hey, draft speculation is supposed to be fun, if a little dubious in this case.

It makes little sense to draft up this year when the Patriots have so many holes and it is such a deep draft, but if they did who would they target? Haden instantly gives the Patriots a defense that can send extra guys; it won't happen but it is fun to speculate.

RodThePat 03-13-2010 12:00 PM

Re: Trading up: who?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crowell33 (Post 1758131)
This is not idiotic. The Patriots traded up for both Ty Warren and Mayo. I think it worked out well both times and BB would considerate it again under the right circumstances. However, this may not be the year to trade down. There are currently 53 players with first round grades. My bet is that they trade down from their first round spot for additional picks.

( I think BB would like a late 2, 3 and 5 for his first round pick at #22 ).

The Patriots actually traded down before picking Mayo.

chevss454 03-13-2010 12:01 PM

Re: Trading up: who?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crowell33 (Post 1758131)
This is not idiotic. The Patriots traded up for both Ty Warren and Mayo. I think it worked out well both times and BB would considerate it again under the right circumstances. However, this may not be the year to trade down. There are currently 53 players with first round grades. My bet is that they trade down from their first round spot for additional picks.



( I think BB would like a late 2, 3 and 5 for his first round pick at #22 ).

:agree::ditto::agree: (unless Spiller is there; or maybe miniSpiller, McClus...)

primetime 03-13-2010 12:11 PM

Re: Trading up: who?
 
They probably won't be afforded the opportunity to trade down because teams are aware that there is no value in trading up with such a preponderance of similar talent at the end of the 1st. Unless some guy with a high grade slides a bit, I don't see it happening.

FoxboroFlyer 03-13-2010 12:19 PM

Re: Trading up: who?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chevss454 (Post 1758135)
:agree::ditto::agree: (unless Spiller is there; or maybe miniSpiller, McClus...)

I don't think McCluster is going to go in the 1st , but he would be great value with the 1st pick of ours in the second, if he's still there. Or if we could acquire a higher 2nd rounder and some for our 1st.

tanked_as_usual 03-13-2010 12:33 PM

Re: Trading up: who?
 
I can't see moving up for anyone at this point.....would have been mcclain if not for his medical condition........beyond that, there are guys who will be there in the 2nd round who stand to be just as effective as guys who are picked in the 1st.......

alphilip77 03-13-2010 12:34 PM

Re: Trading up: who?
 
God I hope they don't trade down their first rounder. I would NOT be happy. They should just take the guy they like "cough" Jared Odrick "cough" and move on. If there was one pick I wouldn't mind seeing them trade, it would be their original 2nd rounder. For a third and a fourth, I would have no problem with that.


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