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Pats726 03-18-2006 04:12 AM

Vinatieri doesn't have a GB deal
 
http://patriots.bostonherald.com/pat...ticleid=131038

Pats726 03-18-2006 04:18 AM

I posted it up quickly...before I read it...NOT sure what this means...except he wants aheck of a lot more....But here is where the golden boy I think misrepresents things....
"Vinatieri is likely looking for the largest deal ever given to a kicker, which would mean an annual salary well over $2 million per season and a signing bonus north of $3 million."......That is nice to say that Adam wants to be paid the most of any kicker..Tell me if I am wrong..did the Patriots NOT offer him a deal that would make him the that? And it was Adam who wanted MORE money than that??? If so, Felger is not reporting all the facts as he knows them and is purposefully trying to stick it to the Patriots and NOT reporting what AdamV really wants...which is a boatload more.
I read that statement of so called what Adam wants and was waiting for him to say something about what the Pats offerered him...VERY poor!! Almost Wrong Borges!!

smg93 03-18-2006 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pats726
I posted it up quickly...before I read it...NOT sure what this means...except he wants aheck of a lot more....But here is where the golden boy I think misrepresents things....
"Vinatieri is likely looking for the largest deal ever given to a kicker, which would mean an annual salary well over $2 million per season and a signing bonus north of $3 million."......That is nice to say that Adam wants to be paid the most of any kicker..Tell me if I am wrong..did the Patriots NOT offer him a deal that would make him the that? And it was Adam who wanted MORE money than that??? If so, Felger is not reporting all the facts as he knows them and is purposefully trying to stick it to the Patriots and NOT reporting what AdamV really wants...which is a boatload more.
I read that statement of so called what Adam wants and was waiting for him to say something about what the Pats offerered him...VERY poor!! Almost Wrong Borges!!

From what I understand, the Pats did offer him a salary north of 2m a year but the problem was the size of the gauranteed portion. Some people have even said that there is no guaranee at all. If that's the only problem, I don't understand why Adam and the Team could not agree on a guarantee. As a kicker, and i've said this quite a bit over the last couple of weeks, he is not in as big a danger to get hurt as another player on the team. I don't know if the bonus money is really the only reason that's keeping Adam from signing. The issue really could be that Adam feels slighted that the Pats wont pay him more. He's beginning to find out however that after this visit to GB and longwell's new contract, that maybe the Pats are actually the ones who are willing to pay top dollar for him. I think Adam's head has gotten so big over all the adulation he's received and as a fan, I'm not enjoying how he has acted throughout this free agency period.

IcyPatriot 03-18-2006 06:08 AM

http://www.packersnews.com/archives/...25226715.shtml

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But after meeting with Vinatieri for the past two days, the Packers think they have a shot at signing him.

“I think the meeting was very positive,” McCarthy said. “Everybody that met with him, the feeling was mutual, and he felt very comfortable. He made clear he’s open to moving on and starting a new chapter in his career.” It’s unclear how much the Patriots have offered or are willing to pay Vinatieri, though he surely will command a better deal than former Packers kicker Ryan Longwell signed with Minnesota last weekend. Longwell’s contract averages $2 million a year and included a $3 million signing bonus.

Bill's Girl 03-18-2006 06:56 AM

This keeps getting stranger and stranger.... I was dreading logging on this morning this is good news for now. Flegie did not mention any other suitors for Adam.

dhamz 03-18-2006 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by smg93
As a kicker, and i've said this quite a bit over the last couple of weeks, he is not in as big a danger to get hurt as another player on the team.

He reportedly had some pretty painful back problems 3 seasons ago and a lot of people have hinted that he did again this past season. With the way the Pats treat injuries and Adam's insistence on being treated like a football player, not a kicker we don't really know for sure.

While he certainly isn't likely to separate a shoulder, a chronic back injury would be a major worry for a kicker.

pats1 03-18-2006 07:05 AM

You gotta love how Felger doesn't even mention Caldwell's injury.

SVN 03-18-2006 07:45 AM

Felger and the other writers are just going to play with the players because the players use their media contacts to get the negotiations across.The pats never do that so we will never know what Adam V was offered.Right if Adam accepts the pats deal it will be like he compromised so he wants to make it sound as if the patriots budged.I love adam but the fact that he aired his sentiments so openly before FA leads me to think he doesnt want to be here. iam pretty sure if not GB he will make a trip to dallas and if a deals go through with either teams,we will left wondering why the pats didnt match without know if they were ever given a chance or not.

Mosi Moose 03-18-2006 08:34 AM

Half of me just wants to sign another kicker right now just to stick it to Adam. This whole thing is getting ridiculous. I love AV and want him back, but the fact that we are on the edge of our seats for him is stupid. Let's get a kicker, any kicker, and move on to bigger issues in free agency, like WR. Clearly Adam will visit EVERY team that needs a kicker and as soon as 1 gives him what he wants, he's gone. We may NEVER get a chance to match an offer, so I say let's just move on now before we aren't left with any choices at all. I really don't think Adam wants to come back--no matter what the money is--which really pi$$es me off.

hwc 03-18-2006 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosi Moose
Half of me just wants to sign another kicker right now just to stick it to Adam. This whole thing is getting ridiculous.

No kidding! For a frickin' kicker! Who the Pats have offered contracts at the highest pay in the leauge to for five years now and he is still busting their balls. Belichick must have the patience of a saint to deal with this whackjob.

Even Parcells goes to the media and tells Adam, "just sign in New England" (you'd be stupid not to). This makes negotiating with the Poston Brothers look like fun.


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