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DarrylS 02-01-2010 04:40 AM

Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
Will be interesting to see how this is handled by the power elite within the Republican Party.. will he now be called a RINO??

This does not sound like Tea Party Rhetoric...

A 'Scott Brown Republican' is pro-choice, anti-tax - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2010 Election - USATODAY.com

Quote:

Sen.-elect Scott Brown, R-Mass., told Barbara Walters he supports Roe v. Wade and believes that states should decide the issue of gay marriage, not the federal government, during an interview that aired today on ABC's This Week.

Asked if he is pro-choice, Brown said: "Yes, because I feel this issue is best handled between a woman and her doctor and her family."

PatsFanInVa 02-01-2010 05:51 AM

Re: Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
By all rights he should be, but GOP-jitsu will go into effect. This consists of the following:

- claim that states' rights (letting each state decide its own fate) is the most important republican principal (i.e., abortion isn't a moral imperative as compared with states' rights, if it's Vote 41 you're talking about);

- above all, ignore any such inconvenience, and always stay on the attack

- emphasize false linkages (i.e., Brown said "independent" a few dozen times in his acceptance speech, avoiding the word "Republican.")

In fact, he's more a RIVO, Republican in Vote Only, the magical 41st senator that gives the Republicans a superminority. :cool: Thus far, he really doesn't even claim the Republican name (for obvious reasons.)

It's conceivable they'll therefore alienate evangelicals in MA, but who cares? You really want independents and moderates in MA. I haven't heard a peep from the evangelicals about his election.

Nationwide, will religious republicans float off into "conservative parties" or "tea parties" (sort of implied in your original question)?

It's been a lurching sort of year for these guys. A year ago their hero was an evangelical purist know-nothing from Alaska. Now, their hero is a moderate from Massachusetts. Brown is pretty much where McCain was during the election, a voice other than the shrill calls to extremism we've come to associate with the Republican party. They purged these voices a year ago, and now they're restocking them... it's smart as long as they can continue to foist "politics as usual" on their wacky base, convincing them to hate the other guy more than their own... but to the extent that the base controls the center, there may be trouble.

Old Sarah, for example, might not take kindly to being relegated to the Fox sidelines, and may realize she has the perfect vantage point from which to snipe at his conservative bona fides.

It's stuff like this that makes it fun to watch Fox clips... what's the over/under on how long until Sarah goes on a Scott = Rino rant?

PFnV

Patters 02-01-2010 05:55 AM

Re: Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrylS (Post 1715715)
Will be interesting to see how this is handled by the power elite within the Republican Party.. will he now be called a RINO??

This does not sound like Tea Party Rhetoric...

A 'Scott Brown Republican' is pro-choice, anti-tax - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2010 Election - USATODAY.com

I read a couple articles where the pundits are exploring how long before he is co-opted. He ran as an independent minded Republican, but already on issues like Don't Ask/Don't Tell, whether he'll run for President, and even on his pro-choice abortion stand, he's playing it very politically. If he's a bright, principled man, he may be able to resurrect a moderate wing of the Republican Party. But, so far I see simply another politician, no one special, who will be easily handled by the controlling interests of the Party.

DarrylS 02-01-2010 06:10 AM

Re: Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
Anyone who studies politics, understands that due to the power and money influences, that just about every politician is co-opted... it is what it is in America today, no more is it personified than it is in congress...

Patters 02-01-2010 06:28 AM

Re: Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrylS (Post 1715743)
Anyone who studies politics, understands that due to the power and money influences, that just about every politician is co-opted... it is what it is in America today, no more is it personified than it is in congress...

I agree, but there are some politicians who, while being pragmatic, also lead. Obama, Clinton, Reagan, and JFK were good examples of that. I think Pelosi is very much a leader, whether one likes her or not, while Reid is not much of leader. Not a lot of backbone or courage. If Brown wants to run for President, he's going to have to take some chances and butt heads with the Republican leadership, but I don't see signs that he's that kind of person.

Harry Boy 02-01-2010 06:53 AM

Re: Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
Let The Games Begin

I hope the Brown Family is ready and realizes what they're in for....................:singing::singing::singing:

DisgruntledTunaFan 02-01-2010 09:53 AM

Re: Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
Yes, I think so

patsfan13 02-01-2010 10:33 AM

Re: Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
IMO Brown won't be labelled a RINO on beig Pro Abortion only if he supports low taxes and reduced gov spending.

DarrylS 02-01-2010 10:44 AM

Re: Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by patsfan13 (Post 1715889)
IMO Brown won't be labelled a RINO on beig Pro Abortion only if he supports low taxes and reduced gov spending.

He labels himself as a moderate on social programs, do not forget he supported health care in Mass and has not opposed same sex marriage.;.

BelichickFan 02-01-2010 10:46 AM

Re: Willl Scott Brown be labeled a RINO???
 
Brown is in a tough place as he won't win the Republican nomination for President - ever - but it tough to imagine him winning the Senate seat again. But that's OK, his job is done, we only needed him to be #41 until we can crawl to the midterms.


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