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Miguel 02-21-2006 07:23 AM

Latest Cap Numbers
 
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...olds022006.htm

My number for the Pats is off by $3 million.

Pats726 02-21-2006 07:35 AM

Pats seem to be in good shape.....and more of the top teams are more closer or over the cap...VERY good Miguel as always!!! Think how bad it will be for EM or AS.....

MoLewisrocks 02-21-2006 10:07 AM

These are of course pre cap cut or restructure figures. We could be in much better shape after factoring those in since we have what should be some relatively easy contract adjustments that can be made via Wllie's and Brady's deals being restructured and some potential deadwood cuts in Poole and Starks and possibly Chad Brown. Those could put us in $10-12M under range albeit with our own potential FA holes to fill at K, WR and DB.

I don't think the Colts on the other hand have anywhere to go to create space except in prorating one or both of the $9M roster bonuses due Manning and Harrison. That would free up $7-14M for them but at a high price going forward since those deals are heavily backloaded and Manning has another $10M bonus coming next year. They also have a high number of RFA starters to deal with and a $6M tag likely going on Wayne. This time last year they were about $7M under even with the tag on Edge, which is how they ended up adding an expensive run stuffing DL in pre season. And their division rival JAX has some bucks free with which to give them fits. They are a potential landing site for Edge who would like to play in his home state and might relish the opportunity to cause Polian angina.

The Steelers don't have too many holes but depending on Staley they need a #2 or move the pile RB and if they can't re-sign Randal El a #2 WR/KR, and they have to re-sign S Chiris Hope. Ben's Superbowl performance should ensure they don't have to deal with upgrading him just yet.

And it may be tough for Miami to snag a dream FA QB like Brees when they may also need a #2 RB in the wake of Ricky's suspension and they've also lost the ability to flip him for draft picks. Not sure why SD is rolling the dice with all the space they've got unless they think they know something the rest of us don't about Brees going forward.

Buffalo looks to be in good shape...until you remember they have JP and Holcomb duking it out under a new HC. It's nice to see so many NFC teams in the top half of this list and teams like KC and Denver and the JETS pulling up the rear. A new CBA could give them several million more plus the all important increased amortization, but most of those teams are going to be up against it either way. If the JETS end up cutting ties with Chad that will add a few million more to their immediate shortfall, and with Abraham to tag and guys like Mawae balking at restructure and Curtis potentially a cap casualty.....

I wonder who on this list is going to scrape up money to feed Ty's family, let alone win him another championship, cause it don't look like KC or Miami is in position to.

patchick 02-21-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks
Not sure why SD is rolling the dice with all the space they've got unless they think they know something the rest of us don't about Brees going forward.

I'm very curious to see how they handle this. The Chargers are in a pretty enviable position overall...some of the best young talent in the league, buckets of cap room, and a paradisiacal location for luring players.

I'd put Jacksonville a close second for recruiting power. Given the large number of Southern boys in the NFL, a friendly, sunny, inexpensive town with a playoff football team and plenty of cap room should attract plenty of interest. (I once visited a guy whose company had transferred him from Chicago to Jacksonville, salary intact. In Chicago, he was routinely upper-middle class. In Jax, he lived like a king.)

PATSNUTme 02-21-2006 10:52 AM

We can save 6 mil cutting , Starks, Poole, & C. Brown, unless I'm reading Miguels page wrong. If we can restructure Willie, Rosey, even Corey we should be able to come up with another 4-6 mil possibly. I don't know if Tom, or the team, will want to sign a new deal that gives him more bonus money but bring his cap # down.

That should put us in decent shape to re-sign Givens and Adam and Neal if they want to sign. Plus go after some other FA.

spacecrime 02-21-2006 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PATSNUTme
We can save 6 mil cutting , Starks, Poole, & C. Brown, .

Don't forget. Money saved will be how much you avoid paying Starks-Poole-CBrown MINUS how much you have to pay for equivalent replacements.

PATSNUTme 02-21-2006 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by spacecrime
Don't forget. Money saved will be how much you avoid paying Starks-Poole-CBrown MINUS how much you have to pay for equivalent replacements.

Equivalent replacements based on last years performance would be draft choices.

ilduce06410 02-21-2006 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...olds022006.htm

My number for the Pats is off by $3 million.

can you tell why?
any particular error?
i tend not to trust information just becdause it's printed somewhere.
who is the authoritative "producer" of salary cap data? in other words, whos figures are accepted as gospel by the league and the nflpa?

Miguel 02-21-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ilduce06410
can you tell why?
any particular error?

I'm hoping that it is because of Jarvis Green. On 1/22 the Globe had it as 370,000. I have it as $3.7 million. I thought that the Globe had a typo. Now, I am not sure. Of course, it could be that the Patriots did away with some LTBE incentives (Gorin,Hochstein, and Light) without announcing it.

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i tend not to trust information just becdause it's printed somewhere.
who is the authoritative "producer" of salary cap data? in other words, whos figures are accepted as gospel by the league and the nflpa?
While I am also wary of accepting salary cap numbers, I have no reason to doubt that ProFootball Weekly's numbers are accurate as they fall in line with other published numbers. The NFLPA numbers are gospel. I and other amateur capologists strive to have our numbers match the NFLPA numbers.

MoLewisrocks 02-21-2006 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PATSNUTme
We can save 6 mil cutting , Starks, Poole, & C. Brown, unless I'm reading Miguels page wrong. If we can restructure Willie, Rosey, even Corey we should be able to come up with another 4-6 mil possibly. I don't know if Tom, or the team, will want to sign a new deal that gives him more bonus money but bring his cap # down.

That should put us in decent shape to re-sign Givens and Adam and Neal if they want to sign. Plus go after some other FA.

We don't need to do a new deal to lower Tom's cap, just guarantee his $4M salary and pro-rate it. That saves $3M.

BTW great comeback line on those equivalent replacements. :D


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