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jeffd 02-10-2006 08:10 AM

Who gets tagged?
 
My guess would have to be Givens. It would give more time to hammer out a long term deal (I think would happen) and would discourage teams from throwing money at him. I think Givens is more necessary than Adam V.

JR4 02-10-2006 08:24 AM

My guess, just a guess, is other .... no one gets the tag.

BelichickFan 02-10-2006 08:37 AM

First - I'm saying what I would do not what I expect. I have no idea what to expect.

I would tag Givens. Worst case, we pay a few million extra for one year but keep our #2 WR. He's probably a $2-$2.5M guy in my mind, paying him$5.8M for one year wouldn't kill us.

But it would give us time and probably a little negotiating power. Not that Givens would object to the $5.8M but he'd prefer a long term deal. It would also give us the chance to trade him to a team that can work out a deal.

We did this with Tebucky, I'd do it again.

JR4 02-10-2006 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan
First - I'm saying what I would do not what I expect. I have no idea what to expect.

I would tag Givens. Worst case, we pay a few million extra for one year but keep our #2 WR. He's probably a $2-$2.5M guy in my mind, paying him$5.8M for one year wouldn't kill us.

But it would give us time and probably a little negotiating power. Not that Givens would object to the $5.8M but he'd prefer a long term deal. It would also give us the chance to trade him to a team that can work out a deal.

We did this with Tebucky, I'd do it again.

I'd rather see PATs use those Millions on improving the Oline. PATs can get a
#2 receiver for far less than 5+ Million.

BelichickFan 02-10-2006 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR4
I'd rather see PATs use those Millions on improving the Oline. PATs can get a
#2 receiver for far less than 5+ Million.

I agree but that's a worst case. Far more likely is we would do a long term deal for far less per year or someone else would and we'd trade him.

FreeTedWilliams 02-10-2006 09:16 AM

I think that Adam gets signed soon, does anyone know what the "Transitional" tag would cost for Givens?

BelichickFan 02-10-2006 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeTedWilliams
I think that Adam gets signed soon, does anyone know what the "Transitional" tag would cost for Givens?

You can do a search, Miguel posted the numbers, but it was very close to the Franchise number, something over $5M.

BelichickFan 02-10-2006 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeTedWilliams
does anyone know what the "Transitional" tag would cost for Givens?

Here you go :

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-...ad.php?t=30416

$5.1M Transition
$6.1M Franchise.

I was thinking the Franchise number was $5.8M :(

MoLewisrocks 02-10-2006 09:30 AM

Adam just got his agent deal worked out and given the CBA situation it's possible they want to wait on his deal to see if something doesn't get done between now and the draft. So I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him tagged again. As Jonathan Kraft said several days ago, they are working on two seperate off season plans - one with and one without a new CBA.

No way they tag a #2 WR for $6M+ or even transition him for $5M+. While I'm sure a lot of teams are interested in David the FA, and some may even be willing to substantially overpay him, they aren't going to both overpay him and give up multiple draft picks to do it. The Colts are planning to franchise Reggie Wayne in case they can't get a deal done without a new CBA because they know if they do he isn't going anywhere.

I'd much rather dangle a few million more in Joe Jurevicius' direction to see if he couldn't be lured away from Seattle, and you can't do that sitting on a tagged Givens. Overpaying Givens even for a year by handing him more than a third of this years cap increase would be a big mistake. Spend that money on upgrading the Oline and Tom gets to add two very good receiving TE's to his favorite receivers list. Spend that money on upgrading the secondary and Tommy doesn't have to play from behind quite as often. There are just too many places that money could be better spent.

If they can sign Givens for a value BB is comfortable with that's fine. Otherwise, thanks for your service and sayonara buddy.

Miguel 02-10-2006 10:48 AM

I would vote for no one.If Givens were given the transistion tag, I would not expect a team to trade draft picks for him. Why should they?? If the Pats do not match the offer, they will get Givens anyway. If the Pats match the offer, then the Pats would take a cap hit in trading Givens away days after giving him a signing bonus.


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