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SVN 01-04-2010 12:13 AM

Reiss: Quarterback shuffle was head scratcher
 
Belichick's use of quarterbacks Tom Brady and Brian Hoyer was puzzling - ESPN Boston
Reiss also said on ESPN that one of the pats players said that they were confused if they are trying to win the game or not...

MoLewisrocks 01-04-2010 12:24 AM

Re: Reiss:Quarterback shuffle was head scratcher
 
Mike is a good reporter. He's not one of the two or three great minds in universe...

It was pretty clear they were playing Brady to work with Edleman. And whichever Patriot didn't know whether they were playing to win the game is probably on the wrong team. Bill always plays to win the game. He doesn't generally play to tie the game and go to OT in week 17 unless that's his only shot at the playoffs.

pheenix11 01-04-2010 12:25 AM

Re: Reiss:Quarterback shuffle was head scratcher
 
I'm the last person to question BB, the man has won 3 SB's, he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

I was confused however. I've heard that he did not want Brady in 2 minute drills because those are pass heavy situations in which pass rushers would be gunning for Brady. If that is the case, seems like a little bit of overthinking. Brady wasn't hurt last year during a 2 minute drill.

Either play him or not. I would have been fine with seeing Hoyer for the entire 2nd half, the kid looked good. But I was perplexed to see Brady come back out.

jmt57 01-04-2010 12:28 AM

Re: Reiss:Quarterback shuffle was head scratcher
 
The "In-Bill-We-Trust" kool-aid has now been completely flushed from Reiss' system, replenished with the espn "let's-create-a-story" Bristol brand of kool-aid.

Deus Irae 01-04-2010 12:41 AM

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Quote:

Specifically at the end of the game, this didn't seem to be the time to do that, not after Brady had been in throughout the second half, at which point it seemed clear that the Patriots were going full tilt for the victory. Receiver Randy Moss was also kept on the sidelines for the final drive, when the Patriots needed to move the ball 66 yards for a game-tying touchdown.

"We didn't really have anything set," Belichick said. "We just went out and played."
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MoLewisrocks 01-04-2010 12:59 AM

Re: Reiss:Quarterback shuffle was head scratcher
 
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Originally Posted by Deus Irae (Post 1672305)
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"game tying TD" as opposed to game winning TD. Last thing Bill wanted in that situation was a tie and OT. The game wasn't meaningless, just not that meaningful with a playoff game looming in 6 or 7 days...

I think Mike is struggling to grasp this in part because he'd decided days ago that BB wasn't going to play any starters for just that reason...

bbabin 01-04-2010 01:04 AM

Re: Reiss:Quarterback shuffle was head scratcher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks (Post 1672320)
"game tying TD" as opposed to game winning TD. Last thing Bill wanted in that situation was a tie and OT. The game wasn't meaningless, just not that meaningful with a playoff game looming in 6 or 7 days...

I think Mike is struggling to grasp this in part because he'd decided days ago that BB wasn't going to play any starters for just that reason...

I understand where people are getting the "game-tying TD" argument. But aren't we forgetting the XP. If you want to win but avoid OT, score a TD and try for a 2 point conversion...

Satchboogie3 01-04-2010 01:07 AM

Re: Reiss:Quarterback shuffle was head scratcher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks (Post 1672320)
"game tying TD" as opposed to game winning TD. Last thing Bill wanted in that situation was a tie and OT. The game wasn't meaningless, just not that meaningful with a playoff game looming in 6 or 7 days...

I think Mike is struggling to grasp this in part because he'd decided days ago that BB wasn't going to play any starters for just that reason...

I was thinking the same thing. At that point I didn't want over time. Either keep the starters in and go for 2 if you get a TD or put in the backups and see what they can do. I didn't want any part of OT.

Deus Irae 01-04-2010 01:09 AM

Re: Reiss:Quarterback shuffle was head scratcher
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks (Post 1672320)
"game tying TD" as opposed to game winning TD. Last thing Bill wanted in that situation was a tie and OT. The game wasn't meaningless, just not that meaningful with a playoff game looming in 6 or 7 days...

I think Mike is struggling to grasp this in part because he'd decided days ago that BB wasn't going to play any starters for just that reason...

There was an option for a 2 point conversion, just like in that Miami game a few years back. I'm sorry, but the "BB always plays to win" argument is just not going to hold up on this one.

Patspsycho 01-04-2010 01:26 AM

Re: Reiss:Quarterback shuffle was head scratcher
 
Today was the one time I wanted to kick BB's *** for that bizarre decision to put Brady back in for all but the last series. There is a time for "situational football experience" and there is a time for a moral victory.


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