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Lieberman ----- OUT

“I told Senator Reid that I’m strongly inclined — I haven’t totally decided, but I’m strongly inclined — to vote to proceed to the health care debate, even though I don’t support the bill that he’s bringing together because it’s important that we start the debate on health care reform because I want to vote for health care reform this year. But I also told him that if the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final passage. Therefore I will try to stop the passage of the bill.”

Lieberman, you are a loser.

Okay, enough is enough.

Its time for Harry Ried, and all the democratic leaders to smell the frickin coffee. YOU ARE NOT GETTING 60 VOTES!

who cares, pass the bill anyway.

When the conservatives had power, they passed their precious tax cuts to the wealthy THREE TIMES, and invaded a country!

so, Harry Ried, and the democratic 'leadership' please...PLEASE stop with the BS bi-partisan pandering, or bending over for stupid 'blue dogs' and DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

pass a healthacre bill that covers all americans.

Thank you,

HD

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Originally Posted by Holy Diver (Post 1569260)

pass a healthacre bill that covers all americans.

The problem is that the bills on the table won't cover all Americans. None of them will.

Cheers to Lieberman!!!

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Originally Posted by Holy Diver (Post 1569260)

All I can say is, it better be something the majority of Americans will approve of. Otherwise, the democrats will be shooting themselves in the foot.

The biggest risk of NOT getting votes from "across the aisle" is that republicans will use it against their opponents in the next election.

If anyone thinks the political pendulum can't swing back to the right very quickly, then they're either too young to know better or just ignorant.

Think about it....the largest sector of the US population is baby-boomers and retirees (combined). These people will be more easily swayed to flip-flop if costs or taxes get out of control.

"Well, do you feel lucky punk?";)

Re: Lieberman ----- OUT

Lieberman is basically an extremist neo-con. He's also been one of the most hawkish for attacking various Middle Eastern countries the past several years.

Thank God he didn't get elected VP... however, given how Cheney/Bush were, it's clear that the cards were set up so no matter was elected, Iraq/Iran were happening anyways.

Re: Lieberman ----- OUT

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Originally Posted by maverick4 (Post 1569268)

"Lieberman, a Connecticut independent who caucuses with the Democrats..."

UPDATE:US Sen Lieberman Opposes Passing Health Bill In Current Form - WSJ.com

Re: Lieberman ----- OUT

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“I can’t see a way in which I could vote for cloture on any bill that contained a creation of a government-operated-run insurance company,” Lieberman added. “It’s just asking for trouble – in the end, the taxpayers are going to pay and probably all people will have health insurance are going to see their premiums go up because there’s going to be cost shifting as there has been for Medicare and Medicaid.”

Joe Lieberman: I'll block vote on Harry Reid's plan

At least Lieberman sees the folly with the public option. Good for him for standing up to Harry Reid.

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Originally Posted by ljuneau (Post 1569274)

Joe Lieberman: I'll block vote on Harry Reid's plan

At least Lieberman sees the folly with the public option. Good for him for standing up to Harry Reid.

Harry Reid is basically a neo-liberal-con....waaayyy out of whack with mainstream America.

Isn't a fuggn' riot how people use "neo-con" like it's a bad word? someone calls a politician a "Neo-con", his response should be.....

"Yes....AND?"

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign (Post 1569265)

The biggest risk of NOT getting votes from "across the aisle" is that republicans will use it against their opponents in the next election.

;)

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

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the public option was to get 60 votes
the opt-out was to get 60 votes
giving the republicans 130+ a,mmendments was to get 60 votes....

who cares about 60 votes?

If the republicans and Lieberman want to run on a platform that ststaes "We didn't vote for healthcare" go nuts!

I assume these same idiots would love to run on the "I don't support Medicare" platform as well....

Note to democrats...

Drop the name "Public Option, and call it MEDICARE"

pass this with 51 votes.

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign (Post 1569279)

Isn't a fuggn' riot how people use "neo-con" like it's a bad word? someone calls a politician a "Neo-con", his response should be.....

"Yes....AND?"

It's a riot you say this, since you don't have a clue what it means and have never bothered to look up their ideology/doctrine.

That is, unless you're a loon who believes in free use of pre-emptive warfare to maintain global hegemony at all costs, spying on all citizens and removal of certain rights, in addition to multiple domestic economic policies which only help the top 3% who control 80% of the wealth.

Given your posts it seems you're less of a loon and just extremely ignorant: a barometer of the memes the Average Joe has internalized.