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pats1 12-29-2005 10:17 PM

America sucks and it's everyone's fault.
 
Why is there such a partisan split?

Give your thoughts...


Since it appears quoting is hip in this endless babble of insults and story-twisting, how about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3980533.stm

Quote:

Kerry's Concession Speech:

...the desperate need for unity, for finding the common ground, coming together.

Kerry pledged to try to bridge the divide in America

Today, I hope that we can begin the healing...

...With that gift also comes obligation.

We are required now to work together for the good of our country.

In the days ahead, we must find common cause, we must join in common effort, without remorse or recrimination, without anger or rancour.

America is in need of unity and longing for a larger measure of compassion.

I hope President Bush will advance those values in the coming years.

I pledge to do my part to try to bridge the partisan divide.

I know this is a difficult time for my supporters, but I ask them, all of you, to join me in doing that.

Now more than ever, with our soldiers in harm's way, we must stand together and succeed in Iraq and win the war on terror...
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Zuma 12-29-2005 10:33 PM

"I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the politics of putting people into groups and pitting one group against another". George W Bush, May 6, 1999

http://irregulartimes.com/uniterdivides.html

Throughout his presidential campaign, George W. Bush repeated a single phrase over and over. "I'm a Uniter, not a Divider," he proclaimed. With this phrase Bush tried to convince the American people that he wasn't the kind of extreme politician who pushed for radical, unpopular policies. In anecdote after anecdote, Bush shared stories of reaching across the ideological divide to forge compromises that reflected the will of the majority of Americans. As the election debacle reached its conclusion and Bush began to choose his cabinet, he acknowledged "the American people want a President who seeks the best people from all walks of life."

This all sounds good. But it's just talk. In his first week as President, has George W. Bush walked the walk? Consider the following:

George W. Bush's very first official act as President was to block the funding of family planning organizations. Bush's first executive order, issued on the 28th Anniversary of the Roe vs. Wade decision, prohibits the funding of family planning organizations overseas if those organizations use their own privately raised funds to lobby their own governments in favor of less restrictive abortion laws. Although Bush justified his order by saying that "taxpayer funds should not be used to pay for abortions," taxpayer funds were not in fact being used for those purposes, since that's been illegal since 1975. The executive order places a gag on family planning organizations worldwide, keeping them from simply discussing abortion issues if they want badly needed U.S. funds.

In the United States, almost 80% of Americans support a woman's right to choose to have an abortion even when her life or health is not threatened (source: General Social Survey). Yet Bush's first official act keeps federally-funded family planning organizations from stating their support for such abortion rights.

Is Bush a Uniter or a Divider?
George W. Bush's cabinet is dominated by millionaires. Although Bush pledged to build a Cabinet that represented the diversity of American experience, his filthy rich Cabinet does not represent the economic reality of most Americans. The Associated Press has reported that Cabinet members Richard Cheney, Mitch Daniels, Donald Evans, Colin Powell, Anthony Principi, Donald Rumsfeld, Christine Todd Whitman and Paul O'Neill are millionaires many times over. John Ashcroft, Tommy Thompson and Mel Martinez have well over a million dollars in wealth. The poor man of the group, Rod Paige, still holds over half a million dollars in wealth.

According to economist Edward Wolff, a majority of Americans are worth $11,700 or less. Can they expect Cabinet secretaries with over a hundred times their wealth to understand their daily lives?

Is Bush a Uniter or a Divider?
George W. Bush meets confidentially with corporate fatcats. As Associated Press reporter George Edmonson discovered, our new President began his year with a little lunch. Closed to the press and the public, it included a little gabfest with dozens of leaders of corporations like General Electric, Intel, Cisco Systems and Wal-Mart. Bush Spokesman Ari Fleischer explained that "maybe they have some thoughts on their mind that we haven't thought of."

To date, has Bush held any lunches with labor groups, civil rights organizations, environmentalists, voters who were turned away at the polls, doctors, representatives of the disabled, of students, of teachers, of farmers? No, he hasn't gotten around to asking the opinions of these large groups yet. But he's covered the crucial CEO demographic right off the bat.

Is Bush a Uniter or a Divider?
It's your right to decide where you stand on the issues of abortion, poverty and corporate welfare. But regardless of your position on these issues, it should be disturbing to note that Bush is beginning his Presidency by consistently aligning himself with tiny minorities. By working against the wishes of and without regard to the circumstances of a majority of Americans, he brings into question his Inaugural commitment to be "the President of All Americans." Even in his first week, the Uniter Divides.

mikey 12-30-2005 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEM
He is not a uniter...but he certainly is the biggest lying bas tard ever to occupy the white house.

He IS the ultimately DIVIDER.

He has DIVIDED this country like NO ONE had ever done before.

He has brought nothing but SHAME and DISGRACE to our country.



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JLC 12-30-2005 09:15 AM

He united enough votes to win twice.

Twice.

PatsFanInEaglesLand 12-30-2005 09:37 AM

Liberals the real dividers

Quote:

On the first night of the Democratic National Convention in August, Bill Clinton stated that Republicans were dividers and not a uniting party. However, after the elections, Slick Willy might want to redirect his statement to Democrats and liberals from certain foreign countries.

On Michael Moore's web blog, he claimed that the majority was still against George W. Bush even after the election. How can Moore, a sort of hero to liberals, expect to unite people on such a bold face lie? The majority voted for Bush.
The race, class and economic warfare wage by the Democrats, because of the failure to win elections is the great divide. Just look at the liberal posts on the board.

HoyaPats 12-30-2005 09:47 AM

Fact Is
 
that it's the right-wing that hates America. They want a world that looks a lot like the world in Islamic fundamentalist countries:

1) Eliminate civil rights and liberties
2) Destroy the separation of church and state
3) Tell women to know their place
4) Harshly punish anyone different that the majority doesn't like harshly, like homesexuals
5) Praise a return to the "good 'ol days"
6) Denounce any progressive change

The American right-wing: Why do they agree with Islamic fundamentalists so much?

Patters 12-30-2005 09:56 AM

The polarization is probably just a byproduct of one party rule. The one party is trying very hard to assert itself, and is met by an equally strong opposition. The Republicans feel that they don't have to compromise, but the Democrats are proving otherwise.

ELOrocks17 12-30-2005 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoyaPats
that it's the right-wing that hates America. They want a world that looks a lot like the world in Islamic fundamentalist countries:

1) Eliminate civil rights and liberties
2) Destroy the separation of church and state
3) Tell women to know their place
4) Harshly punish anyone different that the majority doesn't like harshly, like homesexuals
5) Praise a return to the "good 'ol days"
6) Denounce any progressive change

The American right-wing: Why do they agree with Islamic fundamentalists so much?

Put the crack pipe down and take 2 steps backwards.

HoyaPats 12-30-2005 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELOrocks17
Put the crack pipe down and take 2 steps backwards.

Ahhhhrrrgggg! He absolutely demolished my argument with this comeback!!!!

Zuma 12-30-2005 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoyaPats
Ahhhhrrrgggg! He absolutely demolished my argument with this comeback!!!!

Very witty isn't he...


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