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mikey 12-23-2005 07:52 PM

Alito defended domestic spying
 
http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynam...P&SECTION=HOME




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PatsWickedPissah 12-23-2005 08:01 PM

My man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pats-blue 12-23-2005 10:42 PM

Here is Clinton using his Executive powers to grant the Attorney General the authority to do PHYSICAL SEARCHES WITHOUT A WARRANT in 1982. Which by the way I think worked out well since it helped catch Ames. But my point is why do you insist on ignoring that many past Presidents including CLinton and Carter did the same thing...I guess it is only bad when it is Bush?

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm

All_Around_Brown 12-24-2005 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pats-blue
Here is Clinton using his Executive powers to grant the Attorney General the authority to do PHYSICAL SEARCHES WITHOUT A WARRANT in 1982. Which by the way I think worked out well since it helped catch Ames. But my point is why do you insist on ignoring that many past Presidents including CLinton and Carter did the same thing...I guess it is only bad when it is Bush?

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm

This is the current administrations obfuscation at work. Bush is the only president to date to go around the FISA court altogether, thus breaking the FISA law. In this document you provide, the FISA authority was clearly invoked.

Here....

Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the
Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a
court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of
up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications
required by that section.

Here....

Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney
General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain
orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign
intelligence information.

And HERE....

Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following
officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or
defense, is designated to make the certifications required by section
303(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct physical
searches:

See the difference?? Get it?????????

Patters 12-24-2005 06:47 AM

This has really gotten out of hand. It appears we're no longer free, though like in any unfree country, the vast majority people fair perfectly well. Rampant spying, arrests without due process, even kidnappings and torture, who would have thought our Constitution allowed all that? We are not a free country. Just follow the rules (not the Constitution), and you'll be fine.


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