Group Think on Global Warming--This Is Why Algore Doesn't, as a Rule, Take Questions
 

YouTube - Daring to Question Al Gore

I agree with the skeptical journalist that the former Vice President didn't answer the question. For example, the disinterested UK judge determined after hearing the facts that balance be provided for the young minds watching Gore's documentary in school--and specifically identifying lies, obfuscations, and distortions in the film--isn't exactly an endorsement of the film, as Algore says. The law in UK is now that the film can't be shown by itself absent countervailing opinion that balances out the untruths.

And there has been a sharp increase in the number of polar bears over the recent decades. I know a lot of people derived their opinion on the matter by seeing the photograph of the momma bear and her child seemingly abandoned on the ice floe like the runaway slave mother in _Uncle Tom's Cabin_. Yet do these same superficial-minded folk realize it's just as easy to lie with photos as with words?

This youtube video will live for a long time. It shows when forced to justify or defend his positions the Wizard of Oz Nobel prize winner looks a hell of a lot less godlike--and the efforts made to shut off dissenting opinion are indicative of force replacing reason. Intellectual thuggery.

Too many people stand to make too much money. Including the Lord Fauntleroy boy from DC (his dad was a longtime senator from the state and he was raised principally in a privileged setting, unlike what he fabricated when running for President.)

For those of you who believe in the foolish myth of global warming, ever heard of MIT atmospheric scientist Richard Lindzen? Most global warming is caused by water vapor. Carbon dioxide--plant food--constitutes three percent of the atmosphere. We humans are responsible for generating three percent of that three percent.

So we're going to wreck our economy over that minutiae? You can't make this stuff up, folks.

And the garbage-in, garbage-out computer models can't predict what is happening now, and what has happened in the past with our constantly changing climate. One of the increasingly unjustified assumptions is the importance given to carbon dioxide in the modeling, for example.

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Nah, some of us derive our opinion on fact:



July 6, 2009 (Copenhagen, Denmark): At the 15th meeting of the IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group (PBSG), hosted by the Greenland Institute of Natural Resources, the PBSG renewed the conclusion from previous meetings that the greatest challenge to the conservation of polar bears is ecological change in the Arctic, resulting from climatic warming. Declines in the extent of the sea ice have accelerated since the last meeting of the group in 2005, with unprecedented sea ice retreats in 2007 and 2008. Evidence of these environmental changes, in conjunction with a re-evaluation of the polar bear subpopulations, have led PBSG to list eight of 19 subpopulations as currently decreasing, three as stable and one as increasing. For seven, data were insufficient to assign a trend.

Polar Bear Status Report - Polar Bears International

There's no way you can even state that there has been a sharp increase in the number of polar bears over the recent decades because there's never been an accurate count to begin with.

For example, there are no population studies in Russia and there never have been studies there that would allow quantitative population assessment. In Canada, home to two thirds of the world's polar bears, many subpopulations have been assessed, but for some it has been so long ago that PBSG could not be confident that those old findings apply today. Some populations in Canada have good estimates of size, but no comparative data with which to assess a trend in size.

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"Group think" meaning the group outside of the 20% within the 5% of the world's population living in the US who deny anthrocentric global warming as an article of their conservative faith. But hey that's 1%, right? That counts for something, doesn't it?

Yeah it's all group think, and you're an architect in an Ayn Rand novel. It's just the untalented and less intelligent majority that can't understand the brilliance of the few bright rebels who understand that all the data are wrong.

Don't tell me... "yeah if them scientists is so bright why'd they have to fake the moon landing???"

PFnV

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The Climate Change Climate Change The number of skeptics is swelling everywhere.

List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming

Global Warming Skeptics Insist Humans Not at Fault

I could literally post hundreds of links like this. There are now more scientists that now believe that man has a miniscule influence on earth's temperatures.

But hey, don't let the facts get in your way, continue to delude yourself. You might want to take a vaction in Denver, I heard the skiing has been awesome this weekend.

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On the surface ... it's easy to bash the global warmers as they have little scientific evidence for their position. the earth's climate has shown to be ever changing.

However - what is wrong with the premise of global warming in terms of developing alternative energies. We should have been on a global warming path from the 70's where we did kind of start in that direction. The future - as PressCoverage has well documented - is not in fossil fuels.

When we get off our reliance on foreign oil and foreign debt we will be way better off economically and politically. too much money leaving the country and we need more money coming into the country. Developing green technology is a step in the right direction in many ways. I don't like cap and trade ... I would prefer to see more tax incentives to green technology production and use.

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This statement implies that 100% of the people on the planet Earth outside of the United States all believe in man-made global warming, which of course is ridiculous. In fact, it seems to me that an awful lot of the global warming skepticism is coming from the UK.

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As someone who has witnessed first hand the spirited disagreement and debate inside the environmental science and atmospheric science communities, I can attest that group think is the last thing that is going on. These folks go through a questioning and re-questioning process that challenges every assumption and would exhaust 99% of the people on the planet.

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I wish it were so.

I have been closely following this. Ian Plimer's new book Heaven and Earth: Global Warming, the Missing Science shows how much groupthink is underway, where younger research scientists are getting the big dollars to be on the GW bandwagon.

Here's an excerpt of what Plimer, a highly acclaimed and decorated Australian scientist (google him yourself) who has written a new GW debunking book, has to say: Source:AdelaideNow... Professor Ian Plimer's climate change book sparks debate

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So Pilmer's whole point is that because the climate has changed in the past and humans/CO2 didn't do it, change now can't be caused by humans or excessive CO2?

Thanks so much for sharing that with us.

If Florida's climate became that of North Dakota's over 30,000 years it wouldn't be that big a deal. Assuming Florida as a state in the USA is still around, they'd be able to adapt. Its when it happens in a couple of hundred years or when it shifts 10% of the way there in 20 years that things get dicey.

Past climate changes are irrelevant because they've always come across the planet at the pace of a glacier. Man made Global Climate Change won't come that slow.

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Good question our economic prosperity has been based on the availability of inexpensive energy, 'alternative energy' sources are far less efficient, in many cases by an order of magnitude.

We have more than enough energy resources to take care of our need we choose not to develop them instead sending our money to the middle east.