Barbara Lee Introduces A Bill To End The War In Afghanistan
 

BARBARA LEE: First, our nation is in grieving, we're all mourning, we're angry; there are a range of emotions taking place. Myself personally, I am also grieving and I believe fully and firmly that the Congress of the United States is the only legislative body that can say, "Let's pause for a moment...and let's look at using some restraint before we rush to action." Because military action can lead to an escalation and spiral out of control. So, why I voted no, was one, the president already has the authority to execute a military action. He doesn't need Congress; under the War Powers Act he has that authority. But Congress is the people's house, and the Congress is responsible for providing checks and balances, and you cannot just allow the administration to run ahead with a strategy without reporting back and without having some oversight.


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Re: Barbara Lee Introduces A Bill To End The War In Afghanistan
 

She doesn't understand we're purposely there, like we are in Iraq, for the next 20 years.

We WANT instability in Afganistan and no strong government or national defense there.

We want it to be an opium-producing wasteland, which we can go into whenever we need to, since it's strategically valuable close to China, India, Russia, and the Middle East.

Re: Barbara Lee Introduces A Bill To End The War In Afghanistan
 

Why would we want it to be an unstable opium producing wasteland. What's the endgame to that?

Re: Barbara Lee Introduces A Bill To End The War In Afghanistan
 

No end game per se, but having a weak country that can't defend itself right next to China, India, Russia, and the Middle East, is extremely valuable to us considering the energy pipeline geopolitical game, not to mention convenient access for our military should we need to be there in the future.

If Afganistan became strong militarily and government-wise, they could ally with their neighbors, and that entire region could potentially shut us out as they build pipelines through Afganistan.

Re: Barbara Lee Introduces A Bill To End The War In Afghanistan
 

Broader Strategy: West's Afghan War Targets Russia, China, Iran

Re: Barbara Lee Introduces A Bill To End The War In Afghanistan
 

I'm sure we could negotiate with the Taliban ... we have no problem getting along with the pedo perverts in Saudi Arabia et al.

Re: Barbara Lee Introduces A Bill To End The War In Afghanistan
 

They are 100 years out infrastructure wise. I think we are trying to harness the opium. The opium trade other than destroying American families. Provides and launders money that gets sent to operations like Al Queda. Russia is engaged in talks with Germany over a pipeline between the two countries. I don't believe that Afghanistan is of any consequence to the geopolitical game. Nor do I believe our sole interest there is in keeping our foot in the sand so to speak. It's the opium and the money derived and diluted by it globally. Why would we want that trade to continue unless we were somewhere in control of it.

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[QUOTE=alvinnf;1538612It's the opium and the money derived and diluted by it globally. Why would we want that trade to continue unless we were somewhere in control of it.[/QUOTE]

Did you bother to read the link I provided?

As I said before, Afganistan is geopolitically important to the US. They look at how the British used Afganistan to grow drugs and pump it into India and China 2 centuries ago. A nationally weak Afganistan in shambles, with us controlling and pimping the drugs, is used to check the growing powers of India, China, and Russia.

Next are you going to try to claim Iraq isn't geopolitically important to us either?

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They are entitled to their opinion. We are trying to get ourselves in the middle of the drug trade to ensure it's money distribution. Do they kill two birds with one stone geopolitically being there yes. But it's not the only reason. The drug trade is funding terrorist organizations, they are following the money. They are not using the drug trade as a cover up to spy on China. Why in god's name, China just bought us ought. They could monetize our debt, but hey wont because they'll keep manufacturing cheap goods and we'll do our part by providing a marketplace. Us having a stake in Afghanistan is not getting us a seat at the table with Russia, China and Germany as they forge a looming pipeline deal.
http://kabul.usembassy.gov/media/afg...acts-final.pdf
As a side note we both collectively spelled Afghanastan wrong four times, well 5 now.

Re: Barbara Lee Introduces A Bill To End The War In Afghanistan
 

Who gives a *****, this friggin Obama a$s hole is just like Bush maybe worse.

America has it's god damn beautiful sweet talking poster boy (oh aren't we wonderfuL) so now LIVE WITH IT.

Obama = lying bastard.