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mgteich 09-24-2009 02:32 AM

Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
In the end, some games depend on being effective on short yardage (3rd and short, 4th and short). We have no fullback. I guess we could us Vollmer.

ScrewDrvr 09-24-2009 03:31 AM

Re: Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
shotgun

thats our short, medium, long formation.

I saw them line up in shotgun for the kickoff one time befor the refs alerted them.

RayClay 09-24-2009 05:37 AM

Re: Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScrewDrvr (Post 1519242)
shotgun

thats our short, medium, long formation.

I saw them line up in shotgun for the kickoff one time befor the refs alerted them.

Wes Welker, short medium - Randy Moss, medium long.

captain stone 09-24-2009 11:14 AM

Re: Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mgteich (Post 1519235)
In the end, some games depend on being effective on short yardage (3rd and short, 4th and short). We have no fullback. I guess we could us Vollmer.

Short-yardage offense? I don't think that Bill, BOB, Tom or the OL know what that means any more.

pats1 09-24-2009 11:18 AM

Re: Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RayClay (Post 1519285)
Wes Welker, short medium - Randy Moss, medium long.

That pretty much sums it up...

olschool 09-24-2009 11:24 AM

Re: Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
Heath Evans ; Wherefore art thou ?

patsfan-1982 09-24-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
will i think they need to bring in BJGE

for 3 and 1 or2

and 4 and 1 or 2

we know maroney is that that guy a power runer

and taylor never was that guy for the jags

they had Natrone Means then James Stewart

and latey Maurice Jones-Drew

for short yardage thats not taylor's game

DarrylS 09-24-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
Seems that you are somewhat upset that we did not sign Heath Evans or someone comparable... this is about the 4th thread that you have started all about the lack of short game or the lack of protection for Brady. The belief that a FB could cure our current O ills is really not known..

Would a FB made a difference last week?? Do not really know as we used a lot of different sets.. the week before we went with 6 O lineman with Light as Tackle Eligible..

I really do not believe that right now, many of us have a true barometer of this Offense and its capabilities.. also obvious that we were "rop-a-doped" in game 3, when Brady and Moss liked like the "old days"..

Do not know why BB did not pick up a FB, but he didn't.. really do not know what our short yardage game plan is, the body of evidence is really too small along with the plethora of passes to tell right now.. Morris and BJGE may be options.

mgteich 09-24-2009 11:45 AM

Re: Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
Yes, I would have preferred to have a fullback or someone (like a TE) that might fill the roles of a fullback. However, I well understand that there are other way for a primarily passing team to perform the roles formally filled by a fullback.

There are many threads written that attempt to better understand this offense and how it will work. We have little data: the personnel, the preseason, two games and history.

Different threads discussed various aspects of the offense. All are related to us trying to understand the offense.

Short Yardage
Just RUN the ball
2 TE formations
protecting Brady
screens and dump offs

Yes, I understand that our options are Green-Ellis and Morris. Perhaps that is why we haven't seen the formation.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrylS (Post 1519601)
Seems that you are somewhat upset that we did not sign Heath Evans or someone comparable... this is about the 4th thread that you have started all about the lack of short game or the lack of protection for Brady. The belief that a FB could cure our current O ills is really not known..

Would a FB made a difference last week?? Do not really know as we used a lot of different sets.. the week before we went with 6 O lineman with Light as Tackle Eligible..

I really do not believe that right now, many of us have a true barometer of this Offense and its capabilities.. also obvious that we were "rop-a-doped" in game 3, when Brady and Moss liked like the "old days"..

Do not know why BB did not pick up a FB, but he didn't.. really do not know what our short yardage game plan is, the body of evidence is really too small along with the plethora of passes to tell right now.. Morris and BJGE may be options.


Deus Irae 09-24-2009 11:57 AM

Re: Do We Have A Short Yardage Offense?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrylS (Post 1519601)
Seems that you are somewhat upset that we did not sign Heath Evans or someone comparable... this is about the 4th thread that you have started all about the lack of short game or the lack of protection for Brady. The belief that a FB could cure our current O ills is really not known..

Would a FB made a difference last week?? Do not really know as we used a lot of different sets.. the week before we went with 6 O lineman with Light as Tackle Eligible..

I really do not believe that right now, many of us have a true barometer of this Offense and its capabilities.. also obvious that we were "rop-a-doped" in game 3, when Brady and Moss liked like the "old days"..

Do not know why BB did not pick up a FB, but he didn't.. really do not know what our short yardage game plan is, the body of evidence is really too small along with the plethora of passes to tell right now.. Morris and BJGE may be options.

I'm 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999% sure that having a Sam Gash type of fullback would make a big difference in both the short yardage game and the running game in general. I'd expect that Belichick would agree with that assessment. He's simply chosen to go down another path with this team.

If you look at what Belichick has been doing with this team since 2006, I think you'll find it fascinating. He's completely transforming the style of play on both sides of the ball. I think he's gone too far with it in some instances, but it's been a pretty wild thing to watch.


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