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Another Horror Show (Communist Health Care)

God Damn Stupid Obama if you can't fix the Health Care we now have leave it alone "Repair It Don't Replace It" the American People do not want any of "Your Socialist *****" resign and go back to Chicago.

'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed - Telegraph

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Originally Posted by Harry Boy (Post 1473859)

Harry - while I agree that the NHS that Obama is planning is dreadful, its unfair of you to characterize the UK health system as being communist. The UK has a socialist health system, not a communist one. And there is a difference.

Now, on a different not, I'd like to hear from people in the UK, particularly the guy who came out and slammed me, about this report...

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Ya cause that never happens in the US............

Medical Malpractice Payments - Kaiser State Health Facts

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Originally Posted by Mabeyitstrue (Post 1473942)

Ya cause that never happens in the US............

Medical Malpractice Payments - Kaiser State Health Facts

I know it was lost on you, but that is the point that Harry was trying to make... A NHS isn't free of blemishes..

BTW, all that money that was paid out went to 11, 478 claims.

Paid Medical Malpractice Claims - Kaiser State Health Facts

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz (Post 1473952)

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A NHS isn't free of blemishes

Neither is ours, that was my point sir. You can lead with facts or fear its your choice.

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BTW, all that money that was paid out went to 11, 478 claims

Ya what it dosen't tell you is all the other clamis that ppl didn't make, i'm sure more ppl had issues but didn't file a claim, not all of us are sue happy......

Point being, for every horror story you have, theres the same **** going on in the US with our health care system but atleast everyone is coverd in the UK unlike the US where some people can't get any care at all.

Care for all>Care just for the rich
I'll take my chances, I'm sure the rich will not like it......but who cares about them? I don't, they don't care about me why should I care about them.

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Originally Posted by Mabeyitstrue (Post 1473958)

Neither is ours, that was my point sir. You can lead with facts or fear its your choice.

So, in other words, you had no point because it was common knowledge.. .

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Originally Posted by Mabeyitstrue (Post 1473958)

Ya what it dosen't tell you is all the other clamis that ppl didn't make, i'm sure more ppl had issues but didn't file a claim, not all of us are sue happy......

It also doesn't tell you all the claims that were frivolous but still paid on, and it doesn't tell you how many claims were denied..

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Originally Posted by Mabeyitstrue (Post 1473958)

Point being, for every horror story you have, theres the same **** going on in the US with our health care system but atleast everyone is coverd in the UK unlike the US where some people can't get any care at all.

Care for all>Care just for the rich

First of all, there is care for everyone now. Its a matter of whether or not you want to go and get it. This is one of the fallacies that people fail to realize. Right now, I can go out and get an 80/20 health care plan and pay about the same as I am paying now. And its available to everyone.

Secondly, what do you consider "the rich" because anyone who makes over $50 grand isn't rich.

Third, There is no such thing as healthcare for all. And that includes the national healthcare systems.

There will always be people who don't want the extra burden of paying for insurance. So why force them to bear the burden for other people? That isn't what our country was founded on..

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Originally Posted by Mabeyitstrue (Post 1473958)

I'll take my chances, I'm sure the rich will not like it......but who cares about them? I don't, they don't care about me why should I care about them.

What do you consider rich? How do you know that the "rich" don't care about you? Why do you think you are entitled to what they have without having to work for it?

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz (Post 1473962)

So, in other words, you had no point because it was common knowledge.. .

It also doesn't tell you all the claims that were frivolous but still paid on, and it doesn't tell you how many claims were denied..

First of all, there is care for everyone now. Its a matter of whether or not you want to go and get it. This is one of the fallacies that people fail to realize. Right now, I can go out and get an 80/20 health care plan and pay about the same as I am paying now. And its available to everyone.

Secondly, what do you consider "the rich" because anyone who makes over $50 grand isn't rich.

Third, There is no such thing as healthcare for all. And that includes the national healthcare systems.

There will always be people who don't want the extra burden of paying for insurance. So why force them to bear the burden for other people? That isn't what our country was founded on..

What do you consider rich? How do you know that the "rich" don't care about you? Why do you think you are entitled to what they have without having to work for it?

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So, in other words, you had no point because it was common knowledge.. .

Could of fooled me by the way you talk......

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It also doesn't tell you all the claims that were frivolous but still paid on, and it doesn't tell you how many claims were denied..

Neither does the web-site harry gave.

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First of all, there is care for everyone now.

No theres not, do you live in fantasy land?

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Right now, I can go out and get an 80/20 health care plan and pay about the same as I am paying now. And its available to everyone.

lol ugh, ya if you make enought money sure! but if you don't your SOL.....

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Secondly, what do you consider "the rich" because anyone who makes over $50 grand isn't rich.

Not rich but well off if you spend and live with in your means.

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Third, There is no such thing as healthcare for all. And that includes the national healthcare systems.

Sure there is...... i'm sure if you tell yourself that enough times you'll start to belive it.

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There will always be people who don't want the extra burden of paying for insurance. So why force them to bear the burden for other people?

I'm going to force them to get it because, I don't want to keep paying for them to go to the ER, you might want too but I don't......

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That isn't what our country was founded on./

Thats funny you say that, you need to reread your history books sir.

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What do you consider rich? How do you know that the "rich" don't care about you? Why do you think you are entitled to what they have without having to work for it?

When I have I ever said I want somthing for free, or I don't want to work for it?

As far as the rich caring about the poor, don't make me go into it plz I would rather not and I really don't feel like typing a few pages worth.

I value hard work, I value human life.

We are not all the same, some of us have problems and I myself don't mind giving a handup.

Be thy brother's keeper

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http://matneywoodard.home.att.net/prodigal_son.htm

Great story, should read it.
It really dosen't have anything to do with health care and more to do with how we should treat our ppl.

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The older son represents anyone who might let pride or resentment stand in their way of rejoicing with God and His angels on the return of someone lost.

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz (Post 1473934)

I agree (not communist) I get all worked up at the way the Obama Groupies just want to dive right into this health plan when most of the Politicians themselves don't know everything thats in it and I think they should explain to the people why THEY AREN'T GOING TO USE IT IF IT'S SO GREAT.

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Originally Posted by Harry Boy (Post 1474032)

I agree (not communist) I get all worked up at the way the Obama Groupies just want to dive right into this health plan...

Obama made UHC a central tenet of his candidacy, he took office 8 months ago and here we are still talking about possibly holding a congressional vote on it at some point in the future. Tell me Harry, what exactly is not diving right into this health plan?

Let me see if I can guess, you wanna study this proposal for Umm...

7 years 11 months and 30 days before putting it to a vote right?