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IcyPatriot 08-23-2009 05:01 PM

Kennedy's Spite Leaves Him a Bit Uptight.
 
Good ole Ted ... fearing Mitt Romney would replace John Kerry with a republican ... the legislature stripped him of that power. Romney vetoed the bill which was then overridden.

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Romney veto overridden - The Boston Globe
Hooting and hollering broke out on the usually staid House floor as Speaker Thomas M. Finneran pushed through the bill yesterday afternoon, the final day of formal legislative business for the year.
So now that his days are numbered - he would like to restore that right to the governor because now it's a democrat he can trust - Deval Patrick. He paints the picture of this being the honorable thing to do.:rolleyes:
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/T...221_6262-2.pdf

Well if he really would like to talk of honorable then he should have resigned a while ago. He has missed most of the 270 roll calls in the last 15 months. If Ted really cared about representation ... he would just resign - the honorable thing to do instead of just worrying about 2 yea votes for the probable healthcare bill. Classic Kennedy - party & power over people ... too bad it took this many years for people to see it.

Kennedy should resign - The Boston Globe

Kdo5 08-23-2009 05:22 PM

Re: Kennedy's Spite Leaves Him a Bit Uptight.
 
Teddy the Swimmer is a filthy hypocrite. No surprise. What is surprising is how this man constantly got re-elected as our Senator in Massachusetts.

patsfan13 08-23-2009 05:45 PM

Re: Kennedy's Spite Leaves Him a Bit Uptight.
 
The rule of law is for other people not Teddy the swimmer.

Patters 08-23-2009 06:10 PM

Re: Kennedy's Spite Leaves Him a Bit Uptight.
 
Kennedy's completely in the right here. He's fooling no one. Of course it's a political move, just as it was a political move when the MA legislature changed the rules to prevent Romney from appointing himself, since not honoring it is basically serving the political interests of the Republicans. Feigning fairness on this issue won't fool anyone.

patsfan13 08-23-2009 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters (Post 1470223)
Kennedy's completely in the right here. He's fooling no one. Of course it's a political move, just as it was a political move when the MA legislature changed the rules to prevent Romney from appointing himself, since not honoring it is basically serving the political interests of the Republicans. Feigning fairness on this issue won't fool anyone.


Rules about how political vacancies are filled shouldn't be modified to fit the whim of a specific political situation.

Sad you think it is OK to change the rules whenever it fits the partisan ambitions of either party.

As usuals with dems the ends justify the means regardless of the laws, and they wonder why the people don't trust them with their health care.

IcyPatriot 08-23-2009 06:35 PM

Re: Kennedy's Spite Leaves Him a Bit Uptight.
 
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Originally Posted by Patters (Post 1470223)
Kennedy's completely in the right here..

He would be more in the right if he stepped aside when he was diagnosed with the cancer. Massachusetts has had 50% representation in DC ... that didn't seem to bother him until now.

What I would love to see ... is mandatory representation laws for Congress and Senate people. if you can't be there to vote at least 90% of the time you lose your seat regardless of why you are not there.

efin98 08-23-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Patters (Post 1470223)
Kennedy's completely in the right here. He's fooling no one. Of course it's a political move, just as it was a political move when the MA legislature changed the rules to prevent Romney from appointing himself, since not honoring it is basically serving the political interests of the Republicans. Feigning fairness on this issue won't fool anyone.

Screw the will of the people, if they don't like the laws at the time they go out and change them then when the winds change they go and change them again back to where they were in the first place. Next they will try to claim that it would be too expensive for the state since it would mean two elections for the same position in just over a year :eek:

And before someone brings that issue up remember that they paid for multiple special elections to fill the vacancies from the resigned and the deceased. Marty Meehan's in 2007, Joe Moackley's seat in 2001, Tom Finneran's seat in 2005, Robert Travaglini in 2007, and Sal DiMasi's this past June.

They are in a hurry, they know if they tried changing the law next year they would face angry voters in November.

Patters 08-23-2009 07:00 PM

Re: Kennedy's Spite Leaves Him a Bit Uptight.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efin98 (Post 1470253)
Screw the will of the people, if they don't like the laws at the time they go out and change them then when the winds change they go and change them again back to where they were in the first place. Next they will try to claim that it would be too expensive for the state since it would mean two elections for the same position in just over a year :eek:

And before someone brings that issue up remember that they paid for multiple special elections to fill the vacancies from the resigned and the deceased. Marty Meehan's in 2007, Joe Moackley's seat in 2001, Tom Finneran's seat in 2005, Robert Travaglini in 2007, and Sal DiMasi's this past June.

They are in a hurry, they know if they tried changing the law next year they would face angry voters in November.

I don't think there's much issue with regard to the will of the people. I would bet most people in MA support Kennedy and support health care reform. I would think most people in the state even support cap and trade. Those are critical bills, and I think we ought to be represented.

sdaniels7114 08-23-2009 08:01 PM

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I think both the bills Patters mentioned are critical and their positive influence will be talked about 100 years from now in every state but Texas. It would be unfortunate if MA doesn't get its fair share of the votes.

Some might call the switching capricious, but the only judgment on that that matters is done by the voters.

efin98 08-23-2009 10:22 PM

Re: Kennedy's Spite Leaves Him a Bit Uptight.
 
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Originally Posted by Patters (Post 1470262)
I don't think there's much issue with regard to the will of the people. I would bet most people in MA support Kennedy and support health care reform. I would think most people in the state even support cap and trade. Those are critical bills, and I think we ought to be represented.

That's not what they were claiming before when they removed the direct appointment. They deliberately kept a three month window after January 20th 2005 so that nobody would be "representing" the state, the same people who want to remove the law to go back to appointments.

This is from one of the stalwarts who forced the change:
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Democrats say they are granting the citizens the right to vote, instead of having to accept a handpicked senator for any length of time.

''This is an elected position, not an appointed position, and there's been a process that's evolved over a period of time where I believe the people should vote and voice their opinions in situations of significance,'' said the State Senate's president, Robert E. Travaglini.


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