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PATRIOTSFANINPA 08-04-2009 04:23 PM

James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison - Berkshire Eagle Online

Hope he can lead this secondary to a better year than the horrid secondary of last season who gave gifts of 3-7 points to over 60% of the time the opposition was in the red zone.

Its Sander's time to take over the leadership in the 3rd tier on defense and it needs to be much better than last season in that area if this team is going to go far.

AndyJohnson 08-04-2009 04:31 PM

Re: James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA (Post 1447528)
James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison - Berkshire Eagle Online

Hope he can lead this secondary to a better year than the horrid secondary of last season who gave gifts of 3-7 points to over 60% of the time the opposition was in the red zone.

Its Sander's time to take over the leadership in the 3rd tier on defense and it needs to be much better than last season in that area if this team is going to go far.

Can you post anything without the pisspoor negative attitude?
If I didnt know anything about the Patriots and read your posts only I would think this was a perennial 4-12 team.
Maybe you can consider that this is what readers gather from your posts while you are writing them and if you don't intend to convey that change your attitude.
It really gets bothersome after a while.

jmt57 08-04-2009 04:34 PM

Re: James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
I don't know that Sanders can ever be the leader that Harrison or players like Willie McGinest were; perhaps that may or may not have been one of the reasons for the Pats problems with their third down defense last year. Belichick seems to have a whole lot more faith in Sanders than most on this board do so I'll be happy to give him the benefit of the doubt; the additions of Chung, Bodden, Springs and the return of Adalius Thomas could have more to do with the production from this defense than with Sanders possibly taking over Harrison's role as vocal leader and motivator.

KDPPatsfan85 08-04-2009 04:40 PM

Re: James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
I have a good feeling that at the end of the year Patrick Chung will be the Leader of safeties. It would be great if Rodney Harrison came to camp for a week to coach the Safeties.

AndyJohnson 08-04-2009 04:46 PM

Re: James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmt57 (Post 1447545)
I don't know that Sanders can ever be the leader that Harrison or players like Willie McGinest were; perhaps that may or may not have been one of the reasons for the Pats problems with their third down defense last year. Belichick seems to have a whole lot more faith in Sanders than most on this board do so I'll be happy to give him the benefit of the doubt; the additions of Chung, Bodden, Springs and the return of Adalius Thomas could have more to do with the production from this defense than with Sanders possibly taking over Harrison's role as vocal leader and motivator.

I dont think playing talent and leadership talent have to be related.
I could understand if your opinion of what you have seen him do on the field is less than enthusiastic about his playing ability, but what would you base your comment about him not having the ability to be a leader on?

PATRIOTSFANINPA 08-04-2009 04:50 PM

Re: James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyJohnson (Post 1447539)
Can you post anything without the pisspoor negative attitude?
If I didnt know anything about the Patriots and read your posts only I would think this was a perennial 4-12 team.
Maybe you can consider that this is what readers gather from your posts while you are writing them and if you don't intend to convey that change your attitude.
It really gets bothersome after a while.

Truth is the truth homer,The team better have a stoppage in the secondary than in 08 or it will be trouble - you can slice and dice your crap all you want,the secondary was at the bottom of the league and Bodden and Springs hopefully will help that area.

BTW: I get a little bit annoyed at how you try and tell people what to say and when to say it - All you want is to read in here is what you like to read and for everyone to agree with you,A closer 'Reality check' says that you're no more special than anyone in here so can it with that lecture garbage,I am 40+ years old and taking orders from 'Daddy' are over. - For instance,Who the hell are you to tell someone not to use the word 'retarded' in a freaking internet forum? - Unless its used against another member as a personal attack,its not a rule in here not to say 'Rex Ryan is retarded' for example.


In reality,people like me who thought Cassel was going to ruin the teams playoff hopes in 2008 turned out to not be the case - It was the secondary who cost the team a few games by missing on some important stops during crucial times and a huge reason why Hobbs was no longer a necessity to keep - This secondary needs to be the difference this season,like it or not...and that includes you accepting that fact Andy.


Now to avoid any further waste of my time,back to the thread at hand....

jmt57 08-04-2009 04:50 PM

Re: James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
More on Sanders and Harrison in this eerily similar article by Glen Farley of the Brockton Enterprise: Sanders: Harrison still making contact for the Patriots
Quote:

“These last couple of mornings I’ve woken up,” James Sanders said during a break between Monday’s double session at the New England Patriots’ Gillette Stadium training camp, “he’s sent me a text message, a couple verses of the Bible, a couple of things here and there talking about working hard, continuing to grind and playing with your instincts.
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“Really work on technique,” Sanders answered when asked the antidote to what became an Achilles’ heel for the defense. “This year, we’re really concentrating on technique and making sure if we get beat it’s got to be a spectacular play.

“It can’t be just getting beat on your technique and that’s one thing that we’re really emphasizing this camp, and we’re getting better each and every day doing that.”

According to Sanders, though, it all begins with the safety net at the back of the defense.

“I think all the safeties need to take charge, whoever’s in there,” said Sanders. “Our defense is based on the safeties making a lot of calls, a lot of checks. So whoever’s back there in that back end has to take control of the ‘D’ and make sure everyone’s in the right spot.”

jmt57 08-04-2009 04:58 PM

Re: James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyJohnson (Post 1447564)
I dont think playing talent and leadership talent have to be related.
I could understand if your opinion of what you have seen him do on the field is less than enthusiastic about his playing ability, but what would you base your comment about him not having the ability to be a leader on?

Oh I agree playing talent and leadership talent don't have to be related; I just think it is a lot easier for a player to be accepted as a team's leader and motivator if he is also clearly one of the team's most talented players and top performers, or has a past history of being a winner and clutch performer.

robertweathers 08-04-2009 05:12 PM

Re: James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
Clearly BB thinks he is a solid player as he would not have given him a 3yr $9m deal. His numbers below show that he does warrant the contract.

36 starts, 5 INTs, 10 PDs & 195 TTs.

The only gripe I have is that in 55 games he only has one forced fumble.

Sanders strikes me a solid, steady and unspectacular player who knows the D. I can't speak for his leadership abilities, but based on what Rodney said, maybe he is ready to become a true playmaker. Again, based on the contract, BB thinks so too.

AndyJohnson 08-04-2009 05:16 PM

Re: James Sanders learns from Rodney Harrison
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA (Post 1447568)
Truth is the truth homer,The team better have a stoppage in the secondary than in 08 or it will be trouble - you can slice and dice your crap all you want,the secondary was at the bottom of the league and Bodden and Springs hopefully will help that area.

BTW: I get a little bit annoyed at how you try and tell people what to say and when to say it - All you want is to read in here is what you like to read and for everyone to agree with you,A closer 'Reality check' says that you're no more special than anyone in here so can it with that lecture garbage,I am 40+ years old and taking orders from 'Daddy' are over. - For instance,Who the hell are you to tell someone not to use the word 'retarded' in a freaking internet forum? - Unless its used against another member as a personal attack,its not a rule in here not to say 'Rex Ryan is retarded' for example.


In reality,people like me who thought Cassel was going to ruin the teams playoff hopes in 2008 turned out to not be the case - It was the secondary who cost the team a few games by missing on some important stops during crucial times and a huge reason why Hobbs was no longer a necessity to keep - This secondary needs to be the difference this season,like it or not...and that includes you accepting that fact Andy.

Hmmmmmmmm

Im just trying to point out that you come off exceedingly negative. Don't know where you get me telling you what to do out of that. I made a suggestion. Apparently you chose to antagonize. Whatever.

I also did not tell anyone they couldnt use the word retard. I pointed out that it is a term that is offensive to defenseless people, many who are children, who didn't ask for retardation. If you can't understand that insulting someone by calling them retarded is belittling to the actual people, and children who are afflicted with retardation, and have harbored anger over it for months, I feel sorry for you. At 40+ you should be more mature.

I suppose what you are telling me is that you either intend to come off as negative and inconsiderate or those with disabilities, or would like to hide for it.
Good luck to you.


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