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Box_O_Rocks 07-09-2009 11:39 PM

NFL: "Pansy league"
 
NFL: Are the rule-makers making the game "soft"? - ESPN
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Published: July 8, 2009
Heed the cry of the tough guys
Some of the NFL's safeguards have gone too far, and its appeal is at risk


By Jeffri Chadiha
ESPN.com

Recently retired NFL safety Rodney Harrison blasted the league a few months back, and his criticisms shouldn't be quickly forgotten. He called the NFL "soft." He claimed it had turned into a "pansy league." These were the kind of words that certainly will call attention to Harrison's newfound broadcasting career. But they were also comments that weren't too far off the mark.

RayClay 07-10-2009 12:16 AM

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Wiley seems intelligent and well spoken. How did he get on TV? Mistakes can happen, I guess. Ooh, he called Rodney dirty.

You've got to watch your stuff when you're at the QB. That's show biz, the fans didn't buy a ticket to watch the linebackers. Seems like a silly rule, but they'll figure out how to call it or get rid of it. It isn't like they don't overprotect them already.

DarrylS 07-10-2009 04:11 AM

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Do not have an issue with protecting the QB, my issue is with some of the other rules.. i.e. the "wedge" rule...that is idiotic, one of the most exciting times in a football game gets watered down...

Rodney will be an excellent commentator.. and will go far in that field.

Julius 07-10-2009 04:26 AM

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I don't have any problems with forcing pass rushers to avoid diving at or rolling into the quarterbacks knees(Pittsburgh). You can pass rush without trying to go that low, players can adjust to this rule and still pass rush.
My beef is with the way receivers are allowed to use their hands to create separation and defenders get flagged for breathing on a receiver. The safety issues are less of a concern than the manipulation of the rules in favor of offenses.

Scouse Patriot 07-10-2009 05:35 AM

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The "Brady Rule" itself goes too far by stating you must get back to your feet to tackle. So basically if your right next to the Quarterback and can disrupt the play, you couldn't do it because your not on your feet? All you have to say is simply do not lunge at the QB's legs. You can still tackle or disrupt the QB if your not on your feet without causing injury.

Don't need these stupid rules, just simply say don't lunge at the knees. If they do it's a flag. If a players going to do it he's going to do it, a new paragraph in the rulebook is not going to change that anyway.

Pats726 07-10-2009 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RayClay (Post 1425820)
Wiley seems intelligent and well spoken. How did he get on TV? Mistakes can happen, I guess. Ooh, he called Rodney dirty.

Wiley seems what?? I guess you missed some of what he said a few years ago during Lie-gate times..I do not recall exactly but..it was neither intelligent nor well spoken..and I wondered why he was on...

AndyJohnson 07-10-2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Scouse Patriot (Post 1425889)
The "Brady Rule" itself goes too far by stating you must get back to your feet to tackle. So basically if your right next to the Quarterback and can disrupt the play, you couldn't do it because your not on your feet? All you have to say is simply do not lunge at the QB's legs. You can still tackle or disrupt the QB if your not on your feet without causing injury.

Don't need these stupid rules, just simply say don't lunge at the knees. If they do it's a flag. If a players going to do it he's going to do it, a new paragraph in the rulebook is not going to change that anyway.

Ultimately we are going to end up with 'in the grasp' rules that only allow defenders to wrap up and not tackle the QB. That is where this is headed, but it is being done slowly.

Mike the Brit 07-10-2009 10:06 AM

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Not pansy: defending players from hits to the head/helmet. The hit on Welker vs. the Steelers and the hit on McGahee (also vs. the Steelers -- same player?) were outrageously dangerous.

Pansy: players who collapse in a heap every time a defender goes near them -- particularly punters and a quarterback who plays for Indianapolis. No place in football for drama queens!

efin98 07-10-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson (Post 1426031)
Ultimately we are going to end up with 'in the grasp' rules that only allow defenders to wrap up and not tackle the QB. That is where this is headed, but it is being done slowly.

Already there with the "slide" rule...not much of a stretch to go the distance and put them out of all contact.

HEY BRO! WHAT UP? 07-10-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike the Brit (Post 1426041)
Pansy: players who collapse in a heap every time a defender goes near them -- particularly punters and a quarterback who plays for Indianapolis. No place in football for drama queens!

Eli Manning did this early in his career as well. In fact, there were many commentators and players if I'm not mistaken, criticizing him for not fully stepping into his throws when defenders had a clear shot at him. Instead, Manning would lackadaisically throw the football and turn his back out of the pocket as quickly as possible. However, he obviously showed how tough he is in '07's super bowl.

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Originally Posted by Scouse Patriot (Post 1425889)
The "Brady Rule" itself goes too far by stating you must get back to your feet to tackle. So basically if your right next to the Quarterback and can disrupt the play, you couldn't do it because your not on your feet? All you have to say is simply do not lunge at the QB's legs. You can still tackle or disrupt the QB if your not on your feet without causing injury.

Don't need these stupid rules, just simply say don't lunge at the knees. If they do it's a flag. If a players going to do it he's going to do it, a new paragraph in the rulebook is not going to change that anyway.

I completely disagree that you think the rules are lame. What Bernard Pollard did was cheap and there is no excuse for it. He was clearly beat by Morris on the play, but the *****hole had the nerve to get up just enough to dive head first into Brady's knee cap. You don't dive head first into a person's legs when they were as vulnerable as Brady was. In fact, that very hit could've ended Brady's career. You say that a player can disrupt a play without diving at another person's knees? Without getting on your feet, there is no other way to disrupt the play besides going after somebody's feet or legs while they are stationary.


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