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JSn 12-24-2008 02:09 PM

Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
WEEI 850AM Sports Radio - No One Makes An Impact Like Randy Moss

Good stat analysis.

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Need more evidence of Moss’s impact? Here a touchdown’s worth of exhibits:

ONE – Moss was the top receiver on the two highest scoring offenses in NFL history, the 2007 Patriots (589 points) and the 1998 Vikings (558 points).

TWO – Only five teams in history have won 15 or more games in a season. Moss is the only player who started for two of them: the 1998 Vikings (15-1) and the 2007 Patriots (16-0).

THREE – With 1 catch for 5 yards against Buffalo Sunday, Moss will have had 1,000-yard receiving seasons with a record six different quarterbacks: Cunningham, George, Culpepper, Kerry Collins, Brady and Cassel.

FOUR – Moss has been on the receiving end of the two of the five best passing seasons in history: Brady in 2007 (117.2 passer rating) and Culpepper in 2004 (110.9).

FIVE – If you include Cunningham’s 106.0 passer rating of 1998, Moss has been a fixture of three of the top 12 passing seasons of all time.

SIX – Moss averages 0.8 TD catches per game, the highest scoring rate for a receiver in the Super Bowl Era.

But for all the numbers in the past, remember 2008 as one of Moss’s finest seasons.

The Moss of petulant repute back in Minnesota or Oakland might have gone into a shell when his quest for a Super Bowl ring went up in smoke and Brady went down in a heap.

Instead, Moss quietly leads the NFL in TD catches. The New England running game (4.5 YPA) is as good as it’s been in 25 years. NFL reception leader Welker is heading to the Pro Bowl. Cassel has earned himself a big fat payday with a performance nobody would have predicted. New England fields the best offense in the AFC. And the Patriots just might earn another shot at the playoffs despite losing the game’s best quarterback way back in September.

None of it would be possible without Moss, the team MVP, who has shown over the years that he makes everyone around him better – the 2008 season simply provides further proof.

BradyFTW! 12-24-2008 02:25 PM

Re: Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
Glad to see someone giving Moss his due. Hopefully this argument picks up some notice in mainstream sports media, although I doubt it will since it isn't what people outside NE want to read.

bigjunk1 12-24-2008 02:33 PM

Re: Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
I just have a hard time thinking of anybody other than Welker being this teams MVP. There are very few players in the whole league that I think have been more valuable than Wes.
Moss is a legend, and he has been great this season again, but it seemed to me anyway, that when this team needed something they went to Welker.

JSn 12-24-2008 02:38 PM

Re: Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
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Originally Posted by bigjunk1 (Post 1220708)
There are very few players in the whole league that I think have been more valuable than Wes.

I think, as the article establishes, Moss contributed to a lot of Wes and Matt's stats.

JMarr 12-24-2008 02:39 PM

Re: Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
I agree with this. The Pats now more-than-leathal passing game is made possible not only by what Moss has done when he's gotten the ball, but also by his opening up plays for Welker and Gaffney just by his presence on the field. And, as has been said in other threads, his blocking has been much more noticeable and impressive of late.

As to all the stuff about his dogging it at times earlier in the year, I really didn't see it. What I saw was more like a team-wide despondency (with a few exceptions) during certain games after Brady went down.

BradyFTW! 12-24-2008 02:54 PM

Re: Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
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Originally Posted by bigjunk1 (Post 1220708)
I just have a hard time thinking of anybody other than Welker being this teams MVP. There are very few players in the whole league that I think have been more valuable than Wes.
Moss is a legend, and he has been great this season again, but it seemed to me anyway, that when this team needed something they went to Welker.

I don't want to take anything away from Wes, who is absolutely awesome, vital to our offense, and one of the best WRs in the league. But even when Moss isn't catching the ball. He's taking two defenders out of the play, guaranteed. You just can't overstate the importance of that in terms of how it opens up the field.

There's a reason why Culpepper became a crappy quarterback the second Moss left Minnesota- because he'd spent his entire career, to that point, working with that kind of an advantage.

I think the fact that we're looking at 1000 yards and 11 TDs (so far) as a quiet year for Moss says a lot about him, too...

RayClay 12-24-2008 02:56 PM

Re: Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
Imagine if he was trying.:rolleyes: *sarcasm*

blackglass3 12-24-2008 03:02 PM

Re: Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
Don't let facts like these fool you. Randy Moss is not giving his best effort. He is a selfish, greedy, me first type of person who gave up the second Brady went down. Also, he is the A Rod of the NFL. It is his fault we didn't win the SB last year.

:rolleyes:

JSn 12-24-2008 03:06 PM

Re: Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackglass3 (Post 1220731)
Don't let facts like these fool you. Randy Moss is not giving his best effort. He is a selfish, greedy, me first type of person who gave up the second Brady went down. Also, he is the A Rod of the NFL. It is his fault we didn't win the SB last year.

:rolleyes:

$50 says someone flames you for this, even though you were being sarcastic AND I pointed it out.

primetime 12-24-2008 03:13 PM

Re: Felger will love this: CHFF calls Moss the 2008 Patriots MVP
 
I don't deny that Moss is important to the Patriots, but the reasoning here is anything but "cold hard football facts." They cited a bunch of statistics that refer to Moss's career or the 2007 season, then they point out that the Patriots have a high average running the ball and Welker has had a great season. Then they say, well, that was all Moss. I don't get how you can make that logical leap.


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