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Miguel 11-05-2008 05:26 PM

2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
After the Aaron Rodgers deal, as it stands right NOW, the 2009 franchise tag number for QBs will be $14,651,000. It was $14,143,000


Peyton Manning Indianapolis $18,700,000
Tom Brady New England $14,620,000
Carson Palmer Cincinnati $13,980,000
Aaron Rodgers Green Bay $13,957,419
Brett Favre NY Jets $12,000,000

There had been some posts in the past asking how much it would cost to tag Cassel in 2009 if the Pats chose to tag him.

Ice Cold Bruschi 11-05-2008 05:41 PM

Re: 2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
I'm surprised Brady is 2nd highest paid

blackglass3 11-05-2008 06:14 PM

Re: 2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
I'm suprised Brady gets over $4M less than Peyton. He could very easily b!tch and moan about that, but I don't think I have heard him talk about his contract ever.

WhiskeyBreath 11-05-2008 06:24 PM

Re: 2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackglass3 (Post 1147891)
I'm suprised Brady gets over $4M less than Peyton. He could very easily b!tch and moan about that, but I don't think I have heard him talk about his contract ever.

I'm not surprised.

PATSNUTme 11-05-2008 06:26 PM

Re: 2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
I'm a little fuzzy on the "transition tag". Is that the same $ compensation for the player except the compensation to the team is less if signs with another team?

Miguel 11-05-2008 06:29 PM

Re: 2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PATSNUTme (Post 1147908)
I'm a little fuzzy on the "transition tag". Is that the same $ compensation for the player except the compensation to the team is less if signs with another team?

It is the average of the 10 highest adjusted cap numbers. The franchise number is the average of the 5 highest adjusted cap numbers.

Miguel 11-05-2008 06:33 PM

Re: 2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice Cold Bruschi (Post 1147862)
I'm surprised Brady is 2nd highest paid

Surprised in what sense???'

That he is not first???

Hok 11-05-2008 06:35 PM

Re: 2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PATSNUTme (Post 1147908)
I'm a little fuzzy on the "transition tag". Is that the same $ compensation for the player except the compensation to the team is less if signs with another team?

Putting the transition tag on Cassel would be useless anyway since all it does is allow you to match any outside offers (unlike the franchise tag, which gives you compensation if the player signs elsewhere).

PATSNUTme 11-05-2008 06:48 PM

Re: 2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hok (Post 1147920)
Putting the transition tag on Cassel would be useless anyway since all it does is allow you to match any outside offers (unlike the franchise tag, which gives you compensation if the player signs elsewhere).

I thought that the franchise tag comp was 2 #1 and the transition tag was 1 #1.

MoLewisrocks 11-05-2008 07:08 PM

Re: 2009 Franchise Tag Number for QBs
 
People seldom understand there is a difference between what a player makes per year and what his cap hit is, just as total contract value is only relevent if you play out the deal (see M. Vick who got a $34M signing bonus that was divided over a couple of seasons much of which he now owes back...). Favre is in the final salary only years of his 10 year $100+ deal with Green Bay. He is actually making $12M this year. Tom is making $8M. Manning is making $11.5M. Aaron Rogers is making $12.9M (in a salary frontloaded deal to use up cash and cap in GB who might otherwise not have met the cap floor limit this season). Carson Palmer is making $7.75M.

Manning's deal had a total value of 9 years $126M with $34.5M in signing bonus and low salaries augmented by another $19M in roster bonuses in years 3 and 4. Tom's deal was for 6 years and $61M with $14M in signing bonus and $12M in option bonus in year 2 plus some partial injury/performance guarantees (like if they cut him because he could no longer play). Palmer's deal was for 6 years $118M with $15M in signing bonus and a $9M option bonus.

The figures used to set the tag are essentially cap figures. They can and do fluctuate as new players are signed OR existing players have their contracts restructured or extended. They are essentially current salary and bonus money not prorated plus and prorated share of bonus money spread into that year regardless of when it was actually paid.

I believe up til now Tom had averaged around $12M per on his deal though that average will now drop back towards the actual contract average of $10M+ unless he is extended. Manning has averaged closer to $15M per although his average will drop to $13M if he should not be extended. Palmer has probably taken home more money than Tom over the last 5 years because he also got a #1 draft pick rookie deal before the deal he is now on while Tom played here for peanuts through 2001 and signed an interim deal in 2002 before getting his current deal in 2005. So if you look at bonus and guaranteed money I believe Tom is #3 (and was #4 before Vick got sent to the big house). Some of the recent deals signed by Romo for example average a bit more than Tom but they don't see the money as soon.

Eli will be up for his extension next and his deal will be a corker since Condon is his agent as he was Peyton's.


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