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BionicPatriot 11-02-2008 10:51 PM

IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
Say this and say that lost the game but

Am I the only one annoyed at the constant 5 seconds Manning had all night to complete a pass? Can this team ever get to the QB? Any time we had the lead they gave it up. It's a miracle they only gave up 18, the only reason they did was because the O was on the field all night. We cannot win a championship until we can get after the passer. Not only can this team not get sacks, they make passing on them easy.

Yet everyone seems to blame everything else for tonight. Am I the only one seeing this>?

Patslifer 11-02-2008 10:54 PM

Re: IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BionicPatriot (Post 1143068)
Say this and say that lost the game but

Am I the only one annoyed at the constant 5 seconds Manning had all night to complete a pass? Can this team ever get to the QB? Any time we had the lead they gave it up. It's a miracle they only gave up 18, the only reason they did was because the O was on the field all night. We cannot win a championship until we can get after the passer. Not only can this team not get sacks, they make passing on them easy.

Yet everyone seems to blame everything else for tonight. Am I the only one seeing this>?

I have been saying it all year.... No pressure. Is Pace the guy who was tied up by two blockers all day and reaking HAVOK on the Bills offensive line? To bad Sey is washed up, because he does pretty much nothing vs teams with good O lines.

Patriot Missile 11-02-2008 10:54 PM

Re: IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
The pressure hasn't been there for the majority of this season. Wilfork, Warren, Green and Seymour are still young and basically in their prime. You would figure they should be getting after the QB more. I don't know what the deal is.

bronk37 11-02-2008 11:03 PM

Re: IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
i dont think wilfork, warren, or seymour are supposed to be rushing the QB they are not fast they are supposed to push the pocket and collapse on runs, the olb's are supposed to bring the pressure and they are not.......vrabel and thomas have not put pressure on all year

Bonzo 11-03-2008 01:37 AM

Re: IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bronk37 (Post 1143117)
i dont think wilfork, warren, or seymour are supposed to be rushing the QB they are not fast they are supposed to push the pocket and collapse on runs, the olb's are supposed to bring the pressure and they are not.......vrabel and thomas have not put pressure on all year

Yeah, I think the D-line did its job actually: the Colts managed 47 yards over 21 carries for a whopping average of 2.2 yds/carry.

But I agree with the sentiment that the Pats need to apply more consistent pressure on the QB. The Super Bowl has left me craving pass rush like nobody's business . . .

DarrylS 11-03-2008 05:05 AM

Re: IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1143416)
Yeah, I think the D-line did its job actually: the Colts managed 47 yards over 21 carries for a whopping average of 2.2 yds/carry.

With a makeshift secondary and playing an aerial team like Indy, thought they played well. Once again we do not know the game plan, but to hold a team like Indy to 18 points is fine.. the issue is the Offense, and despite a couple of long drives they did not turn into 6 points..

reflexblue 11-03-2008 05:11 AM

Re: IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patslifer (Post 1143083)
I have been saying it all year.... No pressure. Is Pace the guy who was tied up by two blockers all day and reaking HAVOK on the Bills offensive line? To bad Sey is washed up, because he does pretty much nothing vs teams with good O lines.

Are you a RATS TROLL? in Pats clothing?

Sean Pa Patriot 11-03-2008 06:24 AM

Re: IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
On the bright side, the run defense was a lot better tonight

BlitzFritz 11-03-2008 07:20 AM

Re: IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
really i have been saying that we miss the edge speed rusher.
when we had colvin and mcginest
when we had colvin and vrabel

now vrabel has lost a step and AD does his bull rush every time (he didnt rush that much last night)

you are right. our pass rush lacks speed on the edge
but what can you do?

satz 11-03-2008 07:40 AM

Re: IMO, we really need help rushing the passer
 
Even if all of the above were their i do not think a pass rush would have come. we pratically played nickel or dime the entire game. so their was no front 7 pressure as their was no front 7.

we either had a front 6 or front 5 with 4 rushing and 1 or 2 dropping to cover the underneath.

we rushed 4 I am more impressed with the so much coverage we held them to 47 yd[2.2 yd/carry] for the night with a light front package.our front 4 and 3 were holding against their 5 and 6 guys. that is very impressive its not like the ol is full of scrubs .

we did not get the lead even once as i thought in the past games once we get the lead we went big front 7 package to absolutely create some pass rush
and peneration. seymour/vrabel/ty and vince were in the backfeild on strech plays over powering 6 guys.we were playing with 4 DB and 2 Safety without harrison we did not have a heavy DB who can cover and play the hybrid slot .merriweather is 30 lb lighter so the front line held good.


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