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D-Money 10-13-2008 01:22 PM

Come on now
 
Now we are hearing all these people say that we would still have the same record with Brady?Give me a break!!!This team most likely would be 4-1 with Brady even with this crappy defense because we would put up points.

Iron Helmet 10-13-2008 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Money (Post 1107053)
Now we are hearing all these people say that we would still have the same record with Brady?Give me a break!!!This team most likely would be 4-1 with Brady even with this crappy defense because we would put up points.

Agree 100%

mossisboss 10-13-2008 01:29 PM

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With Brady, this team would be 4-1 or 5-0. No doubt about it in my mind.

Headed towards a 12-14 win season even with our pass rush and secondary problems.

Brady would give us a chance even with our occasional sputtering D...with Cassell this team cannot win if the D falters just a little bit.

Rob0729 10-13-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Money (Post 1107053)
Now we are hearing all these people say that we would still have the same record with Brady?Give me a break!!!This team most likely would be 4-1 with Brady even with this crappy defense because we would put up points.

I don't know if we would have been 4-1 with Brady or not, but I know for sure that we would definitely be 3-2 with any other QB besides Brady right now. At least any back up we could have had for Brady or brought in after Brady went down. We would still be 3-2 with Garcia, Simms, Culpepper, O'Connell, etc.

Brady isn't coming back. We have and had no chance to get a replacement half of what he is. Please stop comparing this situation to if Brady was in.

emoney_33 10-13-2008 01:33 PM

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This team would never lose to an Eli Manning led Giants team in the SUPERBOWL with Brady. NEVER NEVER NEVER. I am 100% confident Brady would not... wait what, uhh nevermind.

Seriously though, no one is perfect and we have no idea what our record WOULD be. It could be 5-0, or still 3-2, who knows? Obviously every single Patriots fan would love Brady to be playing, but he won't this year so let's get over it PLEASE.

Iron Helmet 10-13-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 1107073)
I don't know if we would have been 4-1 with Brady or not, but I know for sure that we would definitely be 3-2 with any other QB besides Brady right now. At least any back up we could have had for Brady or brought in after Brady went down. We would still be 3-2 with Garcia, Simms, Culpepper, O'Connell, etc.

Brady isn't coming back. We have and had no chance to get a replacement half of what he is. Please stop comparing this situation to if Brady was in.

You may be right, but I would be willing to lay down lots of cash that with Garcia, it would have been a more competitive game. And he would have put up more than 3 points (that last TD was garbage time).

emoney_33 10-13-2008 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Helmet (Post 1107087)
You may be right, but I would be willing to lay down lots of cash that with Garcia, it would have been a more competitive game. And he would have put up more than 3 points (that last TD was garbage time).


Even if this career average QB Garcia could come in here and be better than Cassel. How do you propose to get him? What is he worth, what will they take for him? Have BB/SP made any contact regarding this?

Seriously how much of the future would you trade away for ONE year? Go re-read the Patriots mission statement and then tell me EXACTLY what you would do, and then prove to me it is worth it and has not been attempted yet. Because you know so much, mr. intelligent fan.

PatsWickedPissah 10-13-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729 (Post 1107073)
I don't know if we would have been 4-1 with Brady or not, but I know for sure that we would definitely be 3-2 with any other QB besides Brady right now. At least any back up we could have had for Brady or brought in after Brady went down. We would still be 3-2 with Garcia, Simms, Culpepper, O'Connell, etc.

Brady isn't coming back. We have and had no chance to get a replacement half of what he is. Please stop comparing this situation to if Brady was in.

Precisely. While quality QB play would have decreased the margin of victory by the enemy, this team as it is currently playing on the field would be 3-2 at best w/o Tom Brady.

Given that fact, and the fact as long asserted here that BB will NOT trade to bring in a vet QB, Patriots fans should look at the team as a whole to see what deficiencies need to be addressed so that the team can play better this season and be better prepared for NEXT season when TB returns. Some impatient fanboys feel that this means start O'C but BB clearly believes that rookies need seasoning before being thrown to the wolves. He knows that Cassel is gone next year. He'll bring O'C along per plan so that he has a healthy, free of bad habits (like scrambling for his life making chaos plays, entertaining the Michael Vick fanbase) shot next summer of becoming a viable backup to Brady.

SVN 10-13-2008 01:48 PM

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with brady we were 4-4 and got blown out at home vs SD in 2005. hypotheticals are always interesting but if brady was here , there is no gurantee the rest of the offense wouldnt have an injury bug or something. ifs and buts arent always the same.

PatsWickedPissah 10-13-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SVN (Post 1107126)
with brady we were 4-4 and got blown out at home vs SD in 2005. hypotheticals are always interesting but if brady was here , there is no gurantee the rest of the offense wouldnt have an injury bug or something. ifs and buts arent always the same.

We got smoked by San Diego in 2002 with Brady at QB throwing 2 bad decision picks. We're 3-2 with future HOF Brady, just by smaller margins of defeat.


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