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Sean Pa Patriot 09-14-2008 07:09 PM

Positvies and Negatives...
 
Positives-

The defense- The whole defense stepped up.. AD was great today, Seymoer steped up I was impressed with the overall defense.. Then Bent but they did not break

Lamont Jordan- will be a great FA pick up for 08 i


Matt Cassel- him and welker will bond well.. lets hope he and moss mesh well

Stephen Gostkowski- - Adam who??




Negatives

Maroney- can he show up in a big game?? we need him


Moss- He needs to be involved in the whole game


Defense- all though they were great at times, the first drive looked to be long..

Bottom line- it will be the motto in 08- In Bill we trust....

captadamnj 09-14-2008 09:08 PM

Re: Positvies and Negatives...
 
Until Maroney gets rid of that hop step crap after he gets the hand off, I don't see him being a long term answer as a between the tackles runner like what you saw out of Jordan today. Even thinking back to last year's Chargers playoff game, a number of his runs then were off tackle. He's gotta hit the hole hard, and that step will never let him do that.

Overall, I thought the Jets' o-line looked pretty good, a good test for our defense, and I think we played well against it. One thing's for sure, the Jets' line looked a whole lot better than the Colts' o-line did today...

Ichiro 09-14-2008 09:17 PM

Re: Positvies and Negatives...
 
Positives:

Ellis Hobbs - his best game yet?

Deltha O'Neal- looked good in coverage

Ty Warren - dominated Damien Woody

Kevin Faulk - every Qb seems to love this guy, excellent punt returns

Stephen Gostkowski- really booming the ball, wow.

Negatives:

Chris Hanson - try to kick the ball inside the 20, please.

OL - I don't know if I can properly criticize them. Too much pressure, but was it Cassel holding the ball too long & less pocket awareness? Little run game in the first 3 quarters, but was it just Maroney dancing too much?

BionicPatriot 09-14-2008 09:33 PM

Re: Positvies and Negatives...
 
Ellis Hobbs - Man this guy sucks huh? What a great season so far. The only complain I have on him is doing a dance after every play. He needs to tone it down, but damn he's so much better when healthy.

I <3 Jordan.

Welker, he's perfect for easing Cassel into easy situations.

Moss really needs to get involved with the offense. I understand who we have now behind center but Matt certainly has arm strength. Would mroe than one deep ball really kill us? C'mon Josh.

Defense looks good, but I'd like to see the big plays through the air stop. They'll kill us at some point. Other than that, I can't complain much. This unit looks very solid.

Its been just 2 games, but the secondary doesn't look nearly as abad as advertised. There were numerous times Favre had enough time to walk his dog than pass and his boys were covered. However, the pass rush did a good job knocking him out of the pocket. This will be big against less mobile QB's. Favre is still pretty quick for an old white dude ;]

BionicPatriot 09-14-2008 09:34 PM

Re: Positvies and Negatives...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichiro (Post 1035688)
OL - I don't know if I can properly criticize them. Too much pressure, but was it Cassel holding the ball too long & less pocket awareness? Little run game in the first 3 quarters, but was it just Maroney dancing too much?

Soemtimes it makes me wonder if Lomo isn't suited for this offense. Straight runners seem better for this line, not cutback, slasher types.

ClevTrev 09-14-2008 09:37 PM

Re: Positvies and Negatives...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Pa Patriot (Post 1035030)
Positives-

The defense- The whole defense stepped up.. AD was great today, Seymoer steped up I was impressed with the overall defense.. Then Bent but they did not break

Lamont Jordan- will be a great FA pick up for 08 i


Matt Cassel- him and welker will bond well.. lets hope he and moss mesh well

Stephen Gostkowski- - Adam who??




Negatives

Maroney- can he show up in a big game?? we need him


Moss- He needs to be involved in the whole game


Defense- all though they were great at times, the first drive looked to be long..

Bottom line- it will be the motto in 08- In Bill we trust....

Agree with most your points with the exceptions: Moss. He was one very tall decoy today drawing double coverage in a very conservative game plan that did not allow the QB to put the ball in harm's way and the Defense??? That first drive was typical of the Pats, and the adjustments from then on shut the Jets down for most of the day. They were stout!!!

Other than that, good points, and I'd add Faulk, Jerod Mayo (team-leading tackler), and the Defense to the positives.

Sting 09-14-2008 09:41 PM

Re: Positvies and Negatives...
 
Positive; Pats won: Jordan runs like Dillon. Cassel was OK.

Negative: Maroney was hurt.

Bring on Miami

Canada's #1 Pats Fan 09-14-2008 09:45 PM

Re: Positvies and Negatives...
 
(+)'s - Mayo's speed to run down plays from sideline to sideline or from behind.

Lamanai 09-14-2008 09:49 PM

Re: Positvies and Negatives...
 
Not mentioned

Negative: Koppen was the weak link on the line. Allowing sacks, pressure and hits in backfield. JMO.

ALP 09-14-2008 10:25 PM

Re: Positvies and Negatives...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamanai (Post 1035807)
Not mentioned

Negative: Koppen was the weak link on the line. Allowing sacks, pressure and hits in backfield. JMO.

he had jenkins in front of him....by FAR the toughest match up for our O-line...

and on Moss...i am not completely sure, but i could swear he was single covered most of the game


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