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skri65 09-12-2008 02:49 PM

Cassel Will Screw Up...A Lot
 
He's bound to. Most QBs take three years to fully get the grasp of the starting QB position.

Any QB who comes into the league and begins his starting career screws up. It happened to Tom Brady, it happened to Peyton Manning. He will throw interceptions (likely to throw at least one this Sunday), and he will make bad decisions. He will overly rely on Randy Moss and miss out on open receivers (hell, even Brady did that on occasion). He will hold onto the ball to long. He will fumble the ball. All of this WILL happen, and it WILL happen more than we're used to. That is for CERTAIN.

This will be part of the process. I have faith in Cassel, I really do. But I hope everyone here understand this will be a process with (hopefully) many ups, but there will certainly be a fair share of downs as well. There are a fair amount of bandwagon fans here that only understand success. Having a HOF QB starting our games every week is a priviledge and it is incredibly unusual.

I have faith in BB and his ability to coach and protect his own teams weaknesses. We are no longer the best team in the league and I hope everyone understand this: we are likely NOT going to win the superbowl this year. It certainly could happen, but our chances are considerably low.

Cassel will screw up a lot this year and I hope everyone understands that. My only hope is that it will happen rarely enough where we can win more games than we lose.

Before anyone here harps on me, I DO think we will make the playoffs this year. And from there, it's one game at a time. This is more a test of BB than anyone this year.

Phlash 09-12-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Cassel Will Screw Up...A Lot
 
He can't throw an interception if he's handing off the ball. I expect him to be doing exactly that this Sunday, a lot.

signbabybrady 09-12-2008 02:55 PM

Re: Cassel Will Screw Up...A Lot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phlash (Post 1029755)
He can't throw an interception if he's handing off the ball. I expect him to be doing exactly that this Sunday, a lot.

No doubt we will be throwing less with Cassel instead of Brady but I don't think the number has to drop a significant amount. It shouldn't your 2 best offensive weapons are WR.

richpats 09-12-2008 02:59 PM

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You know something else we will see with Cassel that we didn't see with Brady? Mobility. That doesn't make up for everything else Cassel lacks but the guy can make plays on his own.

Bella*chick 09-12-2008 02:59 PM

Re: Cassel Will Screw Up...A Lot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by signbabybrady (Post 1029759)
No doubt we will be throwing less with Cassel instead of Brady but I don't think the number has to drop a significant amount. It shouldn't your 2 best offensive weapons are WR.

Yeah, I agree. It'll be pretty easy to prepare to face the Patriots if our offense becomes one dimensional in any capacity.

AndyJohnson 09-12-2008 03:01 PM

Re: Cassel Will Screw Up...A Lot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skri65 (Post 1029738)
He's bound to. Most QBs take three years to fully get the grasp of the starting QB position.

Any QB who comes into the league and begins his starting career screws up. It happened to Tom Brady, it happened to Peyton Manning. He will throw interceptions (likely to throw at least one this Sunday), and he will make bad decisions. He will overly rely on Randy Moss and miss out on open receivers (hell, even Brady did that on occasion). He will hold onto the ball to long. He will fumble the ball. All of this WILL happen, and it WILL happen more than we're used to. That is for CERTAIN.

This will be part of the process. I have faith in Cassel, I really do. But I hope everyone here understand this will be a process with (hopefully) many ups, but there will certainly be a fair share of downs as well. There are a fair amount of bandwagon fans here that only understand success. Having a HOF QB starting our games every week is a priviledge and it is incredibly unusual.

I have faith in BB and his ability to coach and protect his own teams weaknesses. We are no longer the best team in the league and I hope everyone understand this: we are likely NOT going to win the superbowl this year. It certainly could happen, but our chances are considerably low.

Cassel will screw up a lot this year and I hope everyone understands that. My only hope is that it will happen rarely enough where we can win more games than we lose.

Before anyone here harps on me, I DO think we will make the playoffs this year. And from there, it's one game at a time. This is more a test of BB than anyone this year.

I just dont understand where you are coming from.
You sound like the expectation is perfection. That any playthat doesnt go our way is a screwup, and that it will be hard to win with any of those screwups.
QBs make some plays and dont make others. The players defending against them make plays and dont make some others.
I do not understand how Tom Brady can throw an Int, fumble, get sacked, but Matt Cassel 'screws up' if he does.

I am going to bring this to a new thread, but unless Cassel does significantly worse than the average NFL QB, he isn't 'screwing up". If he produces just like the average NFL QB, I would say he did his job, and we shoud be winning a lot of games.

Yorkshire Patriot 09-12-2008 03:07 PM

Re: Cassel Will Screw Up...A Lot
 
Looking forward to watching Cassel this week, and how BB gameplans with him as starter. I think we all hope that we can get into the playoffs somehow, and that Cassel improves game by game.

Pats726 09-12-2008 03:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorkshire Patriot (Post 1029774)
Looking forward to watching Cassel this week, and how BB gameplans with him as starter. I think we all hope that we can get into the playoffs somehow, and that Cassel improves game by game.

Amen... and to the OP..this sjows how novice one is and how one is NOT paying attention to what is going on...

skri65 09-12-2008 03:10 PM

Re: Cassel Will Screw Up...A Lot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyJohnson (Post 1029769)
I just dont understand where you are coming from.
You sound like the expectation is perfection. That any playthat doesnt go our way is a screwup, and that it will be hard to win with any of those screwups.
QBs make some plays and dont make others. The players defending against them make plays and dont make some others.
I do not understand how Tom Brady can throw an Int, fumble, get sacked, but Matt Cassel 'screws up' if he does.

I am going to bring this to a new thread, but unless Cassel does significantly worse than the average NFL QB, he isn't 'screwing up". If he produces just like the average NFL QB, I would say he did his job, and we shoud be winning a lot of games.

AndyJohnson,

The basic point of the thread is that people should not expect anything too high for Matt, and from the looks of this board, people expect him to be above average. (Or, more accurately, peoples STANDARD of average is distorted because of Brady)

I am merely pointing out that people should EXPECT significantly more "screw-ups" than Brady (and I'm not saying its his fault, I clearly point out that this is to be expected of any new QB).

Frankly, I can see him losing a string of games and performing poorly and everyone on this board screaming for his head. I don't think you can deny that.

Metaphors 09-12-2008 03:15 PM

Re: Cassel Will Screw Up...A Lot
 
His success will depend greatly on the pass protection. Cassel is very accurate in the middle of the field but he will need time for his receivers to separate. Apart from Rhodes, the middle of the Jets D doesn't cover well. If Cassel has time to work the middle of the field, the Pats should be able to move the ball well.

The Jets do defend well outside and Cassel will need to pick his spots carefully. I was actually pretty surprised with his throws outside the hashmarks last week since his accuracy there was awful in the preseason.

If Cassel is going to go deep, I would expect it to be off of play-action and with max protect. That would leave only 2 receivers running routes but you don't want Cassel taking a long time making multiple reads anyway.

While the point of the OP is well taken, I would think the Colts and Steelers are going to be the most challenging for Cassel. If the OL can step up and have a solid game, I can see Cassel having a pretty efficient game on Sunday.


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