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cupofjoe1962 09-02-2008 05:42 PM

Today's post by NEInsider on ESPN board
 
A few of us have been following the NEInsider posts on the ESPN message
board.

Today he made a post on the cornerbacks....

http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/...3342520&lid=19

A little note on cornerback play. Hobbs is quite a bit better than most of you realize. CB in our system is defined by the scheme being played and the FS must decide which corner needs over the top assistance based on coverage schemes. The FS help can be changed if it appears the other corner needs hlep or has not played the correct coverage for the defense called. This is the job of the FS.

If the corner that was to receive deep help is in good position and the other corner appears to have either jumped a route or been duped into thinking he has picked up a key and changed coverage but left himself open to a deep route the FS must play the percentages and move to help the corner in trouble. This is why the FS is generally positioned in the center of the field and deep.

Hobbs many times was doing his job perfectly with deep help assigned but lost his deep help when the other corner gambled and broke coverage or the defensive scheme called was not followed by the other corner. This resulted in Hobbs being one on one when he should not have been and being beaten deep when he should have had deep help.

If a corner has deep help he plays inside the receiver forcing the QB to put air under the ball and allow the deep help to move into position and either break up the play or intercept it. If a corner plays inside the receiver when he has no deep help he forces the FS to decide who needs the help the most. Guessing is never good.

Since we do not flip corners and have a corner cover a specific receiver our cornerbacks absolutely must not break the scheme or they endanger the other cornerbacks coverage and the defense called

We have a very good chance of being dominant at corner by the end of the season. In other words we will be much better at corner by January when it counts than in September. Wheatley will be a star in NFL.

The reason Ty Law was the best corner in the NFL for years is simple. He played the defense called perfectly and never guessed when it would affect the other corner despite the fact he was not that fast. He got his interceptions playing the defense correctly.

pats1 09-02-2008 05:43 PM

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Stop giving this fake the credit he needs to continue on. Enough is enough. Stop treating whatever he says as gospel.

patsgo 09-02-2008 05:55 PM

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at least the insider sounds half way intelligent more than alot of posters here

AndyJohnson 09-02-2008 05:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pats1 (Post 998159)
Stop giving this fake the credit he needs to continue on. Enough is enough. Stop treating whatever he says as gospel.

Yes, that was a horrible description of our defense, starting with the fact that it has been discussed for years that we do not play a strong safety and free safety but a left safety and right safety.
It is ludicrous to even beign to suggest that our defense requires a safety to stand in the middle of the field,and watch how both corners are aligned and covering their man before chossing which side to give help on.
That is simply impossible, because by the time he could make that decision, even assuming he COULD make that decision, the play would have developed so far that he would have no chance of getting to either side of the field.
Plus, it goes against every concept of defensive football in the world, to suggest that a corner may or may not have deep help, so he has to cover as if he does, but also as if he doesnt in case the safety decides he doesnt need it? How do you decide whether a corner who is expecting deep help needs it or not from the first 5-10 yards of coverage? By definition, the tighter his coverage the more he is expecting it.
Or a different way to read this is that the safety sits back and decides which corner is deciding to play his own defense instead of the one that is called, implying our corners just do what they want and our defensive calls are chaos.

This is one of the most obtuse posts I have ever read. The person writing either is goofing with people or can't even understand why what he made up is impossible to be accurate.

PYPER 09-02-2008 05:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pats1 (Post 998159)
Stop giving this fake the credit he needs to continue on. Enough is enough. Stop treating whatever he says as gospel.

You may not like or believe in the legitimacy of the source, but the analysis is completely accurate.

Good post

pats1 09-02-2008 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PYPER (Post 998187)
You may not like or believe in the legitimacy of the source, but the analysis is completely accurate.

Good post

As AJ just said, it really isn't.

AndyJohnson 09-02-2008 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PYPER (Post 998187)
You may not like or believe in the legitimacy of the source, but the analysis is completely accurate.

Good post

Think about that analysis. There is NO WAY that our defense is set up so the corner thinks he is getting help deep but the safety stands in the middle of the field and decides which side he is going to run too after its too late.

jeffbiologist 09-02-2008 06:16 PM

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That sounds like High school... I am sure who gets doubled has alot more to do with what defense is called, strong side and motion responsibilities.....WAY too simple.

Rob0729 09-02-2008 06:17 PM

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One thing I can agree with NEInsider if he is real or fake is that Hobbs does get blamed too often for blown coverages that were not his fault. Fans tend to blame the defender who gets to the receiver first in these blown coverages and Hobbs tends to be first since he plays the deepest. I know there has been several times last year he got blasted for giving up plays when if you look at the replay it was clearly a safety or nickelback.

SVN 09-02-2008 06:20 PM

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i dont know how an ínsider'can continue to last under BB. if there was one they would smoke him out ! and that too he goes to ESPN to post for fans ! ?


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