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Joey007 02-01-2013 10:28 PM

Hypothetical Trade- Victor Cruz
 
Before commenting, realize that I know this is very unrealistic, and likely will never happen.

But let's say Cruz and the Giants can't agree to a deal and they put a 1st round tender on him. Would you trade for him??

I do have a question along with this, how exactly does the RFA system work?? Isn't it whichever team offers a higher offer and the team that has rights to the player decides not to match the offer loses the player??

EwanSellars 02-01-2013 10:33 PM

Re: Hypothetical Trade- Victor Cruz
 
if the two teams offer the same amount and years the player has to go with his former team

Joey007 02-01-2013 10:35 PM

Re: Hypothetical Trade- Victor Cruz
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EwanSellars (Post 3364608)
if the two teams offer the same amount and years the player has to go with his former team

So I'm correct in saying if the team that's going after the player offers more (say, Pats offered Cruz more than the Giants did) They would get the rights to the player??

ausbacker 02-01-2013 10:36 PM

Re: Hypothetical Trade- Victor Cruz
 
I'd rather sign Danny Amendola as an UFA.

ctpatsfan77 02-01-2013 10:52 PM

Re: Hypothetical Trade- Victor Cruz
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey007 (Post 3364609)
So I'm correct in saying if the team that's going after the player offers more (say, Pats offered Cruz more than the Giants did) They would get the rights to the player??

Assuming we're talking about via the RFA rules, no.

The way it works is that the suitor team signs the player to an offer sheet. The old team then has seven days to either match the offer sheet (i.e., let the suitor team determine the contract) and keep the player, or not match it and receive draft pick compensation.

One interesting note is that the new CBA prohibits poison pills: no more "the entire contract is fully guaranteed if the player plays five games in the state of New York" clauses.

Sciz 02-01-2013 11:18 PM

Re: Hypothetical Trade- Victor Cruz
 
It's infinitely more likely to happen than Mike Wallace last year.

Still not something I'd do. For all the complaints about Welker's drops, Cruz dropped a higher percentage of his catchable passes.

RI Patriots fan 02-01-2013 11:21 PM

Re: Hypothetical Trade- Victor Cruz
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ausbacker (Post 3364610)
I'd rather sign Danny Amendola as an UFA.


Why? The guy has averaged 10.5 games a year in his career and has played a total of 12 games the last 2 seasons.

KontradictioN 02-01-2013 11:24 PM

Re: Hypothetical Trade- Victor Cruz
 
Hypothetical signing - Wes Welker.

Nikolai 02-01-2013 11:25 PM

Re: Hypothetical Trade- Victor Cruz
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sciz (Post 3364620)
It's infinitely more likely to happen than Mike Wallace last year.

Still not something I'd do. For all the complaints about Welker's drops, Cruz dropped a higher percentage of his catchable passes.

Yeah, I'm not sure he's consistent enough to win TFB's trust. He'll disappear for a couple quarters, dropping passes and having general mental lapses. He can be explosive, but I think he'd be a poor fit on the Pats.

Observer 02-02-2013 01:56 AM

"Win TB's trust" is a phrase that should be eradicated. The point of playing team sports is to trust your teammates. One should not have to earn an individual teammate's trust when already on the field.


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