Afternoon Practice

jeffbiologist said:

I think its fair to say at any given time there were MULTIPLE guys on the field fighting for JOBS. There is no tanking it, there is no deliberate broken plays. The game plan may have been simple to see what the new guys could do athletically(which can be compensated a bit with scheme for the older guys) but thats it. Its still football and no one wants to lose.

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My theory is that BB doesn't give a damn about winning or losing these games but he uses them simply to evaluate individual talent. 3 straight passes to CJ Jones etc. isn't exactly gameplanning. Gruden may have been practicing plays and coverages, but I think BB just uses the most basic aspects of the playbook to tryout those on the bubble. He expects his players to have the playbook down pat, and that is what practice is for while preseason games are for figuring out what tools he has at his disposal when the season starts and where and when he can use them. Again, I have no idea, but I certainly don't care whether the Pats win a preseason game with Matt Gutierrez taking snaps from Dan Connelly and throwing to CJ Jones, and I really doubt BB does either. He's the type of mind that doesn't get caught up in being competitive at the cost of future success, especially when it doesn't matter.

I agree it is all part of Belichick's plan. Not having to do an injury report until the regular season, he is having fun with this.

Wildo7 said:

My theory is that BB doesn't give a damn about winning or losing these games but he uses them simply to evaluate individual talent. 3 straight passes to CJ Jones etc. isn't exactly gameplanning. Gruden may have been practicing plays and coverages, but I think BB just uses the most basic aspects of the playbook to tryout those on the bubble. He expects his players to have the playbook down pat, and that is what practice is for while preseason games are for figuring out what tools he has at his disposal when the season starts and where and when he can use them. Again, I have no idea, but I certainly don't care whether the Pats win a preseason game with Matt Gutierrez taking snaps from Dan Connelly and throwing to CJ Jones, and I really doubt BB does either. He's the type of mind that doesn't get caught up in being competitive at the cost of future success, especially when it doesn't matter.

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Look no further than last week when he went for 2 points vs taking the 1 point and sending the game into overtime.

In that situation, you ALWAYS go for two points and try to end the game. It's pre-season, and only an idiot would go for a tie to send a game into overtime and risk injuries. If you win, great. If you miss, then you at least got to see those players in that sort of a situation. Not only how they executed, but how they reacted afterwards. There is more to evelauate during the pre-season than simply which players execute the best. That part is important, but there are many other areas, such as player discipline that also need to be observed.

Respects,

ScottieC said:

I swear Belichick is doing all of this on purpose.

Seriously.

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Then welcome to the New England Patriots.
This is obviously your first season as a fan.
You will really enjoy watching them.
They are a great team, and they win a lot.

For those who have followed the team before this pre-season, you have already gained a picture of Belichick and Brady. They hate to lose. At anything. They are total 'throw up in your mouth a little bit' losers, as Parcells used to say.

Brady is the guy who audibled to a 40-yard pass to Moss, up by 30 points.
Brady is the guy who said 'on offense, our goal is to score. It's the job of the other guys to try to stop us.'

Anyone who has watched the team before this year would understand that Belichick would not draw up 'a broken play.' They may not game plan, but they definitely want to attack the Tampa Two, since they see it a bit.

ScottieC said:

I swear Belichick is doing all of this on purpose.

Seriously.

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On cue come the mad scientist posts.

Nevermind these are the same posts we heard Super Bowl week or that it really makes no sense to ever have Brady fake an injury and makes even less sense in the preseason.

Clearly BB is again just messing with the whole NFL.

If you read closely, it says he was absent for the media portion. The entire practice is no open to the media.

Gwedd said:

In that situation, you ALWAYS go for two points and try to end the game. It's pre-season, and only an idiot would go for a tie to send a game into overtime and risk injuries. If you win, great. If you miss, then you at least got to see those players in that sort of a situation. Not only how they executed, but how they reacted afterwards. There is more to evelauate during the pre-season than simply which players execute the best. That part is important, but there are many other areas, such as player discipline that also need to be observed.

Respects,

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So then you agree with me

Urgent said:

Then welcome to the New England Patriots.
This is obviously your first season as a fan.
You will really enjoy watching them.
They are a great team, and they win a lot.

For those who have followed the team before this pre-season, you have already gained a picture of Belichick and Brady. They hate to lose. At anything. They are total 'throw up in your mouth a little bit' losers, as Parcells used to say.

Brady is the guy who audibled to a 40-yard pass to Moss, up by 30 points.
Brady is the guy who said 'on offense, our goal is to score. It's the job of the other guys to try to stop us.'

Anyone who has watched the team before this year would understand that Belichick would not draw up 'a broken play.' They may not game plan, but they definitely want to attack the Tampa Two, since they see it a bit.

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Nice ironic post. Someone who is clearly so familiar with the "win at anything" mentality of BB would probably know that the Pats haven't had a winning record in the preseason since 2003 and that BB doesn't give a damn about the outcome of the games. Like you said, welcome to the New England Patriots.

2007 - 2-2
2006 - 2-2
2005 - 2-2
2004 - 1-3
2003 - 4-0

dhamz said:

On cue come the mad scientist posts.

Nevermind these are the same posts we heard Super Bowl week or that it really makes no sense to ever have Brady fake an injury and makes even less sense in the preseason.

Clearly BB is again just messing with the whole NFL.

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I didn't agree then, nor do I agree now that BB is orchestrating a fake Brady injury. But I haven't seen any reason to panic like everyone seems to love to do around here. If he was spotted passing with nothing on his foot I think it's safe to say that whatever he has isn't catastrophic.

DefenseRules said:

You might have a point about that. I've heard that many coaches around the league are not happy about it.

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i actually have heard BB say the contrary( i mean in the "it is what it is" way) and pats have been of the teams which hasnt complained. Actually BB rarely complains about the rules or limits .

SVN said:

i actually have heard BB say the contrary( i mean in the "it is what it is" way) and pats have been of the teams which hasnt complained. Actually BB rarely complains about the rules or limits .

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Thats funny.

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I should edit this post. I agree what you said.

BB does not complain about the rules or limits.

That does not mean that he likes the rules or limits.

I expect if he did complain in public he would be fined.

Urgent said:

Then welcome to the New England Patriots.
This is obviously your first season as a fan.
You will really enjoy watching them.
They are a great team, and they win a lot.

For those who have followed the team before this pre-season, you have already gained a picture of Belichick and Brady. They hate to lose. At anything. They are total 'throw up in your mouth a little bit' losers, as Parcells used to say.

Brady is the guy who audibled to a 40-yard pass to Moss, up by 30 points.
Brady is the guy who said 'on offense, our goal is to score. It's the job of the other guys to try to stop us.'

Anyone who has watched the team before this year would understand that Belichick would not draw up 'a broken play.' They may not game plan, but they definitely want to attack the Tampa Two, since they see it a bit.

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You're right. Last year was my first season watching the team. I don't know anything about the team.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what the Brady guy can do and I hear Randy is pretty good as well.

Thanks for the insight!!!! I hope to "Understand" at your level soon!!

is there any photos of brady practicing today? i am very concerned.

Raffy15 said:

OH MAN, I'M SO PUMPED! i gotta do 50 more abs after hearing this!

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Raffy15 said:

is there any photos of brady practicing today? i am very concerned.

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I think you need your meds . . . RELAX, he was seen - you don't need pictures

Raffy15 said:

OH MAN, I'M SO PUMPED! i gotta do 50 more abs after hearing this!

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That's all?

Wildo7 said:

I didn't agree then, nor do I agree now that BB is orchestrating a fake Brady injury. But I haven't seen any reason to panic like everyone seems to love to do around here. If he was spotted passing with nothing on his foot I think it's safe to say that whatever he has isn't catastrophic.

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It is 100% likely the injury is exactly what Brady said it was - a minor foot injury. Only an idiot of a coach would risk a less than 100% Brady in August.

But the simplest answer while normally the truth is not good enough when a conspiracy theory with BB pulling the wool over someone's eyes (who it is in this case no one can logically say) could be used in its place.

Raffy15 said:

is there any photos of brady practicing today? i am very concerned.

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I think there is some, troll.

Was Schlereth there ... :violent:

Seriously ... what are the odds belichick would eliminate the pre-season games ... 99.9% he would.

F.B.N. said:

Was Schlereth there ... :violent:

Seriously ... what are the odds belichick would eliminate the pre-season games ... 99.9% he would.

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If you listen to his interview from yesterday on the Big Show, he sounded like he would prefer not to go from 4 to 2 because so many of the young guys need the time. He said the rookies could use 6 preseason games.