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I understand that. They go whistle to whistle. So what if it was after the whistle? There is a line that is drawn that everyone, even NE fans, know where it is and when a player crosses that line it's too far. It safe to say that the line is drawn between necessary and unnecessary. By Sey pushing McNeill into the pile did that help stop the RB? nope. By giving Rivers a shoulder shiver does that help his cause? nope. You and I know where the line is drawn and would be talking about how cheap Merriman is if he had done it to Lyte. You would have said he was on his roid rage. But instead, because you won, we're labeled as whiners. Whiners why? Because Sey was accused of taking cheap shots? Did Hardwick claim that's why the Pats won? nope. Are we whiners because you danced on our 50 yard line after a divisional game win and we fought back by calling your team out? I just don't understand the thinking of Patriot fans sometimes.
1.) "You" aren't a Charger, so "we" doesn't apply
2.) The Chargers are whiners for multiple reasons
3.) If your claim is that none of the Chargers were 'bumping' after the whistle or doing anything else over that mythical line you've suddenly found, feel free to watch the game again and focus on every Charger player on every play.
4.) No video shows any Seymour headbutt of a Chargers coach. Hardwick was either lying of has the NFL Zapruder tape somewhere. The ESPN article shows no headslap by Seymour to Hardwick. In fact, the ESPN article states that nothing along the lines of Hardwick's allegations happened when Seymour was matched up against Hardwick one on one.
5.) The NFL found nothing that rose to a fine-able offense, despite Hardwick's bleating.
6.) Break down the 'offenses' of Seymour:
2 "bumps" on Dielman, one the author said was just a reminder that Dielman, THE CHARGERS AVOWED ENFORCER ON OFFENSE, wasn't the only player worthy of the label.
Seymour fell on Dielman, but Sando doesn't even claim it was dirty, using the wording "perhaps unnecessarily".
Sando called a push in a pile up "unnecessary".
Sando mentioned a 'roundhouse', but concedes that Seymour's intentions were not clear.
1 "bump" on Rivers, followed by River's attempt at an academy award.
So, no foot-stomping was noted, despite Hardwick's allegations, and only one play that Sando even felt was clearly 'unnecessary'.
To sum up all these 'over the line' things:
3 'bumps'
1 play deemed unnecessary
2 plays Sando can't call one way or the other.
0 foot stomps
It was nothing like Hardwick, an admitted dirty player, was insisting it was. Chargers fans should probably be wondering just how many of their favorite team's players have 'issues'.
P.S. an ESPN article dated 11/9/2007 has Quentin Jammer as one of the 10 most penalized players in the NFL from 2004-2007
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