The Jags can run the ball

I admire the way the Jags run the ball. I think the twin-turbo combination really works, and they can be the difference in any game. They have "big play" written all over them as well as "pound it" and the OL and coaches have the right attitude. When they're hot, they're hot.

I think that the Pats' D can be very good against the run though. They've had moments when they were not, but generally they are a solid run defense. I think a lot of their few weak moments has had to do with decisions, like to bring the eighth guy into the box or not. Case in point: McGahee, who had great success until they brought Rodney into the box. End of running threat. You'd better believe when that coach says "Stop that guy" they're going to stop that guy. Anybody think the coach doesn't know when to pull that trigger?

Since the Pats will put up points, slowing that running game by 50% then causes the Jags a lot of problems. Slow down that running game by 50%, and you force a Garrad to beat a Brady at Brady's game, in Brady's house. Any takers for Garrad?

There is something i really really really don't understand a couple of years ago we destroyed Jax in the playoffs with basiclly the same team they have now. yet some how they have improves so much they they can now beat us desprite all of our upgrade can someone explain this to me because i am confused

A.C Vegas said:

There is something i really really really don't understand a couple of years ago we destroyed Jax in the playoffs with basiclly the same team they have now. yet some how they have improves so much they they can now beat us desprite all of our upgrade can someone explain this to me because i am confused

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Taylor wasn't playing,he was injuried. On his own, Drew was over 100 yards on the day.


Also, it's the current impression everyone's going with, I doubt most think it's gonna happen, their just making that call to look smart if that's what happens. If they turn out wrong, big deal, nobody care either way.

BrianPat said:

Taylor wasn't playing,he was injuried. On his own, Drew was over 100 yards on the day.

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so Fred Taylor + David Garrad - Leftwitch > Brady + moss+ welker+stallworth

is that the basic equation

BrianPat said:

Taylor wasn't playing,he was injuried. On his own, Drew was over 100 yards on the day.

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That was last year in the regular season. And 80 of MJD's yards came on a freaky play where he ran into his own man behind the line of scrimmage, all the Pats players gave up on the play, MJD didn't (and definately to his credit) and he ran the rest of the way for a TD. But it threw off all the stats.

BrianPat said:

Taylor wasn't playing,he was injuried. On his own, Drew was over 100 yards on the day.

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And a huge bulk of that came on not just a big play, but a highly suspect, fluke play. I may be mistaken, but wasn't Wilfork out of that game and we had Mike Wright manning the middle? As well as Bruschi and Vrabel at middle linebacker and TBC at OLB? This Patriots' defense has more talent up front than it did last year... and a better secondary (IMO).

BrianPat said:

Taylor wasn't playing,he was injuried. On his own, Drew was over 100 yards on the day.

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All right, they have Taylor and a better QB this time but the Pats have added whom? I'll give you Taylor if you give me Randy. I'll give you Garrad if you give me Wes. I win every time.

BrianPat said:

Taylor wasn't playing,he was injuried. On his own, Drew was over 100 yards on the day.

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Wait a minute! Was that in the playoff? I doubt it. I think you're referring to a regular season game in Jacksonville.

we've had a few games this season where runners have had well over 100 yards against our defense

I just want to see all the talk about being old and slow function as Junior and Tedy's TACKLIN' FUEL!

ok, maybe I'm wrong, but the playoff game was awhile ago, the last time we played them was last year.

My understanding was the last time we played them ( according to Belichick ) Fred Taylor didn't play, just pointing out a fact, you know, since he's playing very well this year.

The Jags are one dimensional, the running game will be shutdown enough by the Pats for them to win. Once/If the Pats are up by 21 points, the Jags can run all they want, I suspect if the Pats have a 21 point lead in the 4th, they'll let them run a little and let them run out the clock, they've done that once or twice already this year too teams stupid enough to think their running game will get them 20 something points with 8 minutes in the 4th quarter.

Here's a better question, why is this thread even here, there's 10 threads on the Jags running on us already !

BrianPat said:

ok, maybe I'm wrong, but the playoff game was awhile ago, the last time we played them was last year.

My understanding was the last time we played them ( according to Belichick ) Fred Taylor didn't play, just pointing out a fact, you know, since he's playing very well this year.

The Jags are one dimensional, the running game will be shutdown enough by the Pats for them to win. Once/If the Pats are up by 21 points, the Jags can run all they want, I suspect if the Pats have a 21 point lead in the 4th, they'll let them run a little and let them run out the clock, they've done that once or twice already this year too teams stupid enough to think their running game will get them 20 something points with 8 minutes in the 4th quarter.

Here's a better question, why is this thread even here, there's 10 threads on the Jags running on us already !

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I agree with you, tho I think the Pats will by up by 21 well before the 4th qtr. Brady is going to throw on that secondary and score. At what point are the Jags going to start taking chances (throwing)?

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And a huge bulk of that came on not just a big play, but a highly suspect, fluke play. I may be mistaken, but wasn't Wilfork out of that game and we had Mike Wright manning the middle? As well as Bruschi and Vrabel at middle linebacker and TBC at OLB? This Patriots' defense has more talent up front than it did last year... and a better secondary (IMO).

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Not only that, but the guy that MJD bounced off of was none other than Kyle Brady. So, Belichick found a way to take that fluke play away too.

Touchback Jack said:

we've had a few games this season where runners have had well over 100 yards against our defense

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And in most of those, we won handily and werent concerned with running plays that would run out more clock than they had to work with.

Difference from 2005 and now is Lefttown is gone. So no statue in the pocket with a slow release and huge wind up. Plus JDR tried to outsmart himself by throwing the ball more than running it. Not becuase the Patriots stop them from running because he thought he could catch them off guard.

Garrard is a much better QB than Lefttown. I think the Pats had like 8 sacks that game.

but still does is garrad and taylor > Moss and welker