What did Jacobs do to draw the ire of Seau, Bruschi & Wilfork?

LloydBraun said:

I also agree that the horrible poke wasn't so bad, Collinsworth just got way too excited.

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Was anyone else going nuts when he started his rant? I mean, sure, what Wilfork did LOOKED bad, but how could neither of the two guys in the booth to have the common sense to ask, "what caused this?"

The worst was when Collinsworth gave props to Jacobs for not retaliating...Wilfork's move was the retaliation towards whatever Jacobs did!!

Nothing that Jacobs could have done justifies what Wilfork did. If you defend stupidity you lose all credibility even when you are right.

I remember while watching the game, Bruschi or ? tackled Jacobs a few plays before the incident in question, and when Jacobs was getting up, he threw his elbow back into the players head. I dont remember who it was, but when Wilfork did what he did, I assumed it was because of that incident.

I was thinking he's lucky. I'd take an eye poke any day in comparison to a Mankins Nut hammer.

TheGodInAGreyHoodie said:

Nothing that Jacobs could have done justifies what Wilfork did. If you defend stupidity you lose all credibility even when you are right.

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Whatever...save the self-righteous crap for something other than sports, please. Have you even played sports in your life? It's pretty easy to be so moral from your couch.

TheGodInAGreyHoodie said:

Nothing that Jacobs could have done justifies what Wilfork did. If you defend stupidity you lose all credibility even when you are right.

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And when you blow a situation out of proportion, you create the stupidity.

Wilfork's gesture had no intent to injure and its pathetic that people try to demonize Wilfork. Its not "justification". Its dealing with the facts. People should try doing that more often instead of assuming they know wtf is going on and putting their expectations on it.

DaBruinz said:

And when you blow a situation out of proportion, you create the stupidity.

Wilfork's gesture had no intent to injure and its pathetic that people try to demonize Wilfork. Its not "justification". Its dealing with the facts. People should try doing that more often instead of assuming they know wtf is going on and putting their expectations on it.

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Yeah, well put.

Of course, for some people, being more "objective" and taking the moral high ground in order to create some false sense of superiority over the rest of us homers far outweighs the chance to logically think something through and come to the conclusion that what Wilfork did wasn't that big a deal.

BadMoFo said:

Playful poke? I may be a homer, but you, sir, are King of all Homers!

They must have been playing "eye tag." That's an awesome game, but only if you win.

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LOL...me too...that sounded way too funny when i read it...

"playful poke"...hehehe

Remix 6 said:

it was a game filled with scuffles

my guess would be it all started with Harrison being blocked @ the knees which he said in the globe that really ticked him off. then Harrison hit Toomer a little late..then someone probably did something after play to get more players involved.

once your teammate gets attacked, it tends to go beyond them on the field

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For the sake of this thread, I went back and viewed my VHS copy of the game. Nothing there that would explain it. My sense at the time is that things were heating up (after all the Giants made Wilfork and co. look pretty lame in the first half) and I think things were getting hot.

In an event, it was a great no-call on the official's parts. You have to expect things to heat up in a game like this. I also think that Wilfork 'pulled his poke" and should be warned by the League, but not fined (faking ain't doing).

SteveTHEyankee said:

I also think that Wilfork 'pulled his poke" and should be warned by the League, but not fined (faking ain't doing).

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It was a Hokey Pokey.

BradyManny2344 said:

It's not a poke until it makes contact, and he never did. Essentially all he did was give Jacobs a friendly warning.

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Warning or not, it was most definately not "friendly". And we don't know if he made contact, we just know he didn't make hard enough contact to injure him. If someone did that to Brady, would it be a playful poke?

Wilfork was clearly pissed. He seemed to be saying (of my own interpretation) "You just did this to me. Don't do it again or I will do it back".

SteveTHEyankee said:

For the sake of this thread, I went back and viewed my VHS copy of the game. Nothing there that would explain it. My sense at the time is that things were heating up (after all the Giants made Wilfork and co. look pretty lame in the first half) and I think things were getting hot.

In an event, it was a great no-call on the official's parts. You have to expect things to heat up in a game like this. I also think that Wilfork 'pulled his poke" and should be warned by the League, but not fined (faking ain't doing).

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Thanks for checking the tape. No surprise, NFLN did a poor job of covering the situation. I agree, Wilfork did not truly poke Jacobs.

It was an act of intimidation, not of violence.

xmarkd400x said:

Wilfork was clearly pissed. He seemed to be saying (of my own interpretation) "You just did this to me. Don't do it again or I will do it back".

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That's kind of what I gathered from it myself, actually. I was guessing maybe Jacobs was poking someone's eyes out at the bottom of the pile and Wilfork was letting him know they weren't fans of that.

I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but it's good to know that if Ray Lewis came up and stuck his fingers into Brady's facemask like Wilfork did, we'd all be defending Lewis and saying he doesn't deserve to be fined. Unless there are double standards at play here.

look, i think wilfork should be fined, but not suspended...wut he did seemed for the purpose of intimidation, not harm

and i assume if he wanted to harm jacobs....the 300+ pd man could have done it...very easily

Pujo said:

I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but it's good to know that if Ray Lewis came up and stuck his fingers into Brady's facemask like Wilfork did, we'd all be defending Lewis and saying he doesn't deserve to be fined. Unless there are double standards at play here.

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There are, Wilfork hasn't been an accessory to murder before....

But seriously, of course there will be a double standard if Brady is involved in anything - but that doesn't mean that the interpretation of what Wilfork did - that the intent wasn't to harm but intimidate - is not the correct one. It is. There's no other way to read it unless one lets Collinsworth's hissy fit influence them.

ALP said:

and i assume if he wanted to harm jacobs....the 300+ pd man could have done it...very easily

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Exactly. (10 char)

This is the most ridiculous argument I have seen in a while. And the stinking Giants trolls make it even worse. (Have fun losing in the 1st round BTW) I hope it was worth it for you.

It was not an eye poke. It was a point. It's too bad that Vince couldn't keep his emotions in check and avoid contact but he did. He was flagged and fined. There was no intent to injure. Case closed.

Also if someone had did that to Brady I think most on this board are smart enough to realize the difference between a poke and a point.

If you don't know what an eye poke is go watch the 3-stooges marathon on New Year's Day. They will explain it to you nitwits.

BradyManny2344 said:

There are, Wilfork hasn't been an accessory to murder before....

But seriously, of course there will be a double standard if Brady is involved in anything - but that doesn't mean that the interpretation of what Wilfork did - that the intent wasn't to harm but intimidate - is not the correct one. It is. There's no other way to read it unless one lets Collinsworth's hissy fit influence them.

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It's good that you're consistent. Next time Brady takes a cheap shot I'll be looking for your "intent ... to ... intimidate" interpretation.

denverpatsfan said:

Also if someone had did that to Brady I think most on this board are smart enough to realize the difference between a poke and a point.

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And I'm sure you'd be defending it as a "point" instead of attacking it as a "poke" if Brady were on the receiving end.

denverpatsfan said:

If you don't know what an eye poke is go watch the 3-stooges marathon on New Year's Day. They will explain it to you nitwits.

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What Wilfork did was a Three Stooges poke. Moe could have done no differently to a guy wearing a football helmet.