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JETS FAN 10 said:

None of us including Jets and Patriot fans really know what happend on Sunday or how long this cheating has went on for. We know the logistics, but thats it. I'm sure most of you are very disapointed in this news as I would be if it were the Jets. If all this is true I would hope the NFL and Patriots get off there high horse, because minus the kickoff return that game was a joke. Brady wasnt touched once and the Pats converted on most 3rd and longs. I hold BeliCHEAT in the same sentence with Pacman Jones. What Pacman did was more embarassing to himself then to the league, BeliCHEAT is ruining the integrity of the game. Taking draft picks from them would I'm sure suck but right now thats a slap on the wrist with this team. With all the talent they have there a Superbowl contender, so in the short run it's a slap in the wrist. This moron needs to be suspended for atleast 4 games, if not worst. I would even recommend taking your dec 16th home game and playing at the meadowlands. Something needs to be done. I'm sure I'll get some BS responses and calling me a typical Jets fan and that's not fine, I'm sure cheering for Chads injury will be even be brought up which is irrelevant to this topic. All im here to do is voice my opinion on how sick the Pats organization makes me, not to argue with fans, because I'm sure as a fan of just not the Pats but the game you would think this is simply wrong!!! I would never take away what the Pats have done in recent years, that would be unfair guys like Brady and Bruschi, but BeliCHEAT deserves nothing. I said my peace feel free to come at me with garbage now....

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Oh Mr. High Horse...... while you sit all smug casting aspersions towards BB, try to remember that 3/4 of your coaching staff sat right next to him and did his bidding within the last couple years. Mangina knew exactly who to point security towards. Know why........... CUZ TWO ****ING YEARS AGO HE WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD THE KID TO DO IT.

Your staff is doing the exact same thing (without a doubt), just did not get caught. Everything the Patriots do, the Jets try to do as well.

We will take our punishment to BB as it comes............. You. you're just stuck with a crappier version of him.


Enjoy the rest of your season, including the azz whooping the RAVENS are about to give you.

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JETS FAN 10 said:

i was on here before the game saying the pats were a great team who reloaded the roster and after the game i didnt think much of it than a better team came in and beat us, but the question is how much of that 38-14 win was really ligit, thats fair to ask.

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Stealing signals has nothing to do with a 108 yard return for a TD = 7 points.
Moss beating 3 of your guys for a TD bomb has nothing to do with stealing signals = 7 points + 7 points = 14 points.

The tape was taken before halftime, that much we know for sure. So the second half in which they hung 24 points is legit. Unless you think that Mangini's defensive plan is so simple that the Pats were able to remember what was on the tape, decipher all of the calls, and match them with the coaches hand signals in under 15 minutes. IF that is the case then your team has bigger problems than you think.

The Pats thrashed the Jets and it wasn't even close. Stop trying to find excuses for it and realize that the talent on each team and depth are entirely different. The Pats have all-pro talent (which is why this incident is very dissappointing) and the Jets don't. Once your team finishes 8-8 this year (or worse) are you and the rest of the Jets fans going to attribute that to signal stealing?

BTW, you do realize your HC learned from Belichick and would do exactly the same? Oh wait a minute, he was a Pats coach before he went to the Jets so if he knew that the Pats did this then he is just as guilty, same with Brian Dabol. They did nothing about it when they were on the Pats therefore by la, guilty themselves. Hypocrites.

You tell us that we will throw the Jets booing in your face and hten say it has nothing to do with this. However, you go on to say that you hold Belichick and Pacman Jones in the same light. Hello!? What do they have to do with one another? One is breaking U.S. laws, the other violated a NFL league policy. You are a freaking moron. Keep telling yourself that your HC doesn't do this or any HC for that matter. I guess ignorance really is bliss.

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Fixit said:

Here's some garbage: they took the camera and tape early in the first quarter. Now, I know you didn't know that, because you haven't actually bothered to read anything, but it's what happened.

Secondly, signal stealing is allowed by the NFL. All the Pats did was use a video camera to do it, which is violation of the league's rule against cameras on the field. Also, judging by some game pictures, the Jets may have some explaining to do on that score, as well.

Lastly, the ass-whuppin' your guys got was totally legitimate. Hang your hat on something else, because the "they cheated" defense doesn't work.

You're definitely not a typical Jet fan, because the Jet fans I know are all reasonable, informed, and know the importance of paragraph breaks.

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Get it right it was 5 minutes left in the 1st quarter lol We cheated to get our first touchdown and then we decided to play it blind the rest of the way and runback a 108 yd kickoff return and then throw a 51 yard bomb to Moss. LOL I'm rolling over these Jet's fans thinking we actually cheated the whole game. We will probably go against the grain next game and roll them 70 to 0 the next time we play them. 2 point conversions after every TD.

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I've said over on Jetnation the same thing I am about to say now:

The tape had nothing to do with our poor offensive line play that got Chad injured.

The tape had nothing to do with our lousy special teams that took a play off and saw Ellis Hobbs make the history books.

The tape had nothing to do with the fact that in the second half the Pats totally ran away with the game (at least in the first half it was sort of close).

Sunday cannot get here soon enough. Trust me Patriot fans, some of us Jets fans are just as sick and tired of hearing about this thing as you are.

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jetheelz said:

I've said over on Jetnation the same thing I am about to say now:

The tape had nothing to do with our poor offensive line play that got Chad injured.

The tape had nothing to do with our lousy special teams that took a play off and saw Ellis Hobbs make the history books.

The tape had nothing to do with the fact that in the second half the Pats totally ran away with the game (at least in the first half it was sort of close).

Sunday cannot get here soon enough. Trust me Patriot fans, some of us Jets fans are just as sick and tired of hearing about this thing as you are.

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Thanks! Good luck with the rest of the season I hope Chad is okay

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jetheelz said:

I've said over on Jetnation the same thing I am about to say now:

The tape had nothing to do with our poor offensive line play that got Chad injured.

The tape had nothing to do with our lousy special teams that took a play off and saw Ellis Hobbs make the history books.

The tape had nothing to do with the fact that in the second half the Pats totally ran away with the game (at least in the first half it was sort of close).

Sunday cannot get here soon enough. Trust me Patriot fans, some of us Jets fans are just as sick and tired of hearing about this thing as you are.

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wow a objective fan from another team.welcome to the board .

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patriotspride said:

wow a objective fan from another team.welcome to the board .

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Thanks, I joined last week in anticipation of the game. Turns out I did not have much to anticipate.

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JETS FAN 10 said:

None of us including Jets and Patriot fans really know what happend on Sunday or how long this cheating has went on for. We know the logistics, but thats it. I'm sure most of you are very disapointed in this news as I would be if it were the Jets. If all this is true I would hope the NFL and Patriots get off there high horse, because minus the kickoff return that game was a joke. Brady wasnt touched once and the Pats converted on most 3rd and longs. I hold BeliCHEAT in the same sentence with Pacman Jones. What Pacman did was more embarassing to himself then to the league, BeliCHEAT is ruining the integrity of the game. Taking draft picks from them would I'm sure suck but right now thats a slap on the wrist with this team. With all the talent they have there a Superbowl contender, so in the short run it's a slap in the wrist. This moron needs to be suspended for atleast 4 games, if not worst. I would even recommend taking your dec 16th home game and playing at the meadowlands. Something needs to be done. I'm sure I'll get some BS responses and calling me a typical Jets fan and that's not fine, I'm sure cheering for Chads injury will be even be brought up which is irrelevant to this topic. All im here to do is voice my opinion on how sick the Pats organization makes me, not to argue with fans, because I'm sure as a fan of just not the Pats but the game you would think this is simply wrong!!! I would never take away what the Pats have done in recent years, that would be unfair guys like Brady and Bruschi, but BeliCHEAT deserves nothing. I said my peace feel free to come at me with garbage now....

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Gawd, you poor soul. Let's do that. Let's play two away games with the Jets this season. Tell you what, the Pats will leave their cameras at home, give the Jets their playbook, and reveal their alignment signals on defense, and let's guess what the final score will be. Think about it . . .