2017 Draft Prospect Thread

I.M. Fletcher said:

I am all in on Garrett. I really think he is a generational talent at DE. If whoever is picking first drafts either kizer kaaya or Watson, will regret it immensely.

I don't have the same concerns about run defense, but he definitely has room to grow. He holds up his blocker well, but a little more patience would be nice to see.

He's also going to be one of the youngest players in the draft, which is nothing but a positive for his potential growth still.

I echo @BaconGrundleCandy about his team first attitude. He really seems incredibly poised, and well spoken. He just screams patriot player to me, so it's unfortunate we won't have a chance to see him as a Pat til he's in his mid 30s.

Even if some team traded the first overall pick to us, I would put the chances of keeping it at about 10%.

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I.M. Fletcher said:

My question about engram, what position does he play in our offense. I think he will be a good pro, I just don't see the fit if they are bringing Bennett back.

Hernandez was criticized for his blocking, but he always had plus plus athleticm for a move TE. I think engram is a step below as a blocker and receiver. That's not a big shot, since AH should've been our best receiver, but without even AHs blocking, I don't see him cutting it inline.

Basically, for me, if you are drafting him, you think he can take over amendolas role. That will be the only position they will be drafting this year imo. Engram could be a monster underneath, but I also doubt his route running which won't work in that role.

Engram will end up around 30-50th in the draft, and there is no way I see the value at that stage for us. A team like Denver could use him quite a bit more than we can.

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I.M. Fletcher said:

I am all in on Garrett. I really think he is a generational talent at DE. If whoever is picking first drafts either kizer kaaya or Watson, will regret it immensely.

I don't have the same concerns about run defense, but he definitely has room to grow. He holds up his blocker well, but a little more patience would be nice to see.

He's also going to be one of the youngest players in the draft, which is nothing but a positive for his potential growth still.

I echo @BaconGrundleCandy about his team first attitude. He really seems incredibly poised, and well spoken. He just screams patriot player to me, so it's unfortunate we won't have a chance to see him as a Pat til he's in his mid 30s.

Even if some team traded the first overall pick to us, I would put the chances of keeping it at about 10%.

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manxman2601 said:

What are your views on Derek Barnett. I haven't watched him yet but he's getting very positive reviews on twitter.

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reamer said:

I can't speak for Fletcher, but Barnett is a bit of an enigma to me. Some plays he looks unblockable with speed around the edge; other plays, he seems to just lumber into place and do nothing. I know that pass rushers don't have a super high success rate, but to me it's the body language and effort that is all over the place. That's almost impossible to judge without knowing scheme, coaching, personality, etc.

At his best, he's very similar to Sheard, and an athletic upgrade. I'm not sold on him yet, however. We'll see how he does for the rest of the season. I expect him to test very well at the Combine, but I just wished he would display more urgency on the field throughout the duration of the game.

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I.M. Fletcher said:

I was trying to search for words on him, but that about sums it up. I can see why he's very attractive and moving up boards, but I am left with as many questions as answers. He seems like the type of guy you draft in the top 10, and then are drafting another pass rusher the next two years.

He seems to hold up the edge incredibly well, I can say that for sure. I just wish I saw something more often when I watched him.

He is also incredibly young, like Garrett, so there could be a couple more gears he can shift to, but I don't see any way I could be talked in to a top 10 pick for him. I think there is Myles Garrett, and about 5-6 other ends that you could take anywhere from 10-50 depending on fit. For the Pats, I still like Tim Williams quite a bit more, and he's probably closer to 50th pick range at this stage.

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I.M. Fletcher said:

Even if some team traded the first overall pick to us, I would put the chances of keeping it at about 10%.

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ctpatsfan77 said:

If they think the player is better than the trade, they'll take the player (see: Brown, Malcom).

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I.M. Fletcher said:

Sure, but in this hypothetical situation, the pick is the most over valued asset in the league. As much as I love Garrett, if an offer was made similar to what we have seen top picks go for, I can't see BB liking any prospect that much.

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manxman2601 said:

What are your views on Derek Barnett. I haven't watched him yet but he's getting very positive reviews on twitter.

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reamer said:

Wonder if Wilson declares this year. Supremely talented.

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BaconGrundleCandy said:

I saw this yesterday actually. Hes been great this year and that is one stat that speaks volumes. Him and Tabor are quite the duo.

Wilson reminds me a lil bit of a poor man's Talib?

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I.M. Fletcher said:

Exactly the comp I am working off.

His physicality is legit for an outside guy.

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I.M. Fletcher said:

Most years, teams are over drafting guys in the secondary to try and fit holes. Not this year. There are a legit 25 guys going in the top 3 rounds this year.

For my money, give me Conley, Jones and Wilson as the top of the corner market.

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