Does Aaron Rodgers Give You Pause Re: Jimmy G?

How would you feel if TB12 were replaced with a QB of the caliber of Aaron Rodgers? I'm watching the Packers and he is not a very good quarterback despite his stats.
Just curious. Not ready to turn the page on TB12.

Watching Rodgers today, I'm wondering if Brady will outlast him. Who knows? Maybe he'll outlast Garroppolo too.

Are you saying that Rodgers has never been a very good QB, or just that he isn't one now?

Well Aaron Rodgers has all day to throw today and can't hit open receivers. Its only 1 game though.

Look at who Rodgers has for a damn coach.

Come on.

When Brady is done I would be perfectly fine replacing him with a QB the caliber of Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers is sucking hard this season but he hasn't always been bad.

Who wouldn't want a QB like Aaron Rodgers after Brady is done? NE would be lucky to have a really good QB again after Brady is done.

Players like A. Rodgers and Big ben are great QBs but Brady is on a whole different level. He has constantly played at a high level for 15 years. I don't think the Pats will ever have a QB as good as Brady. Heck, I don't think the NFL will have a QB that is good as Brady.

Fencer said:

Are you saying that Rodgers has never been a very good QB, or just that he isn't one now?

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He wasn't good today. He seems to have peaked around 2010 to 2011. I think people were much higher on him than we are on Jimmy G. Green Bay won one Lombardi with him at the helm. Most teams would be pretty happy to change places with GB. I'm not sure the Pats would.

I think what I was thinking watching football today was that we need to hold on to TB12 as long as possible because there is no guarantee a very good QB will make a team very good. There are intangibles -- we saw them in the second half of each game today.

This is just me thinking out loud. I am wondering if others look at these top QBs who have never won consistently as top tier or second tier QBs. I think there is a chasm between TB12 and the other skilled passers.

At times it's the QB, and other times it's the coordinator or the rest of the team executing the plays.

Brady didn't look all that great in the first half (by the numbers). Was that Brady, the play-calling or the rest of the team? Brady is great, but a QB does not throw for 300 or 400 yards without the rest of the team and coaching doing their jobs as well.

Rodgers threw a really bad pass that was intercepted today. But if you have a short memory of what having a team around you means, I would suggest you review the 2013 game logs when Brady was asked to do something with very little on the field with him. Brady's 2013 QBR and Rodgers's QBR this year are about the same.

JAG has been in this system for several years with arguably the greatest coach and QB as his mentors. He was asked to step into a system with which he was very familiar, surrounded by quality players who knew him well, and he did well. If you believe you give Rodgers equal time with the coach and this system and JAG beats him out, then you likely don't appreciate the role of coaching and supporting players in that performance. Like Rodgers or not, he did not luck into a 2X NFL MVP, Super Bowl ring and Super Bowl MVP because he sucks. After 3 solid starts, it's a little early to compare JAG to that.

Brady is the GOAT, but Rodgers is great. In the end it is a team sport. If receivers cannot get separation, then the QB suffers even if he has a calendar day to throw the ball. Every Pack game I have watched seems to ask Rodgers to hit passes in ridiculously narrow windows. It was a problem last year as well. The Pack will have issues until that changes, and Rodgers cannot run the routes and scheme to get people open.

If we had anything resembling a guarantee that Garoppolo would become as good as Rodgers, I'd want the team to sign him to an extension tomorrow. Rodgers looks like he might be on the downswing now, but he's given them almost a decade of elite play.

The bigger issue, IMO, is how incredibly unlikely it is that Garoppolo turns out to be as good as peak Rodgers.

festy1986 said:

Look at who Rodgers has for a damn coach.

Come on.

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The guy looks like a milkman.

You guys aren't serious, right? Rodgers has been the best QB in the league not named Tom Brady for a while now. It isn't even close. Stats can lie, sure, but not when you put together the kind of season's Rodgers does year in year out. Put down the crack pipe...

On another note, am I the only one who is really sick of the offense-skewed league? There are 20 QBs with passer rating above 90, 12 above 100. Everyone has a positive TD-INT ratio, most the average probably in the 3-1 range. That is just stupid. It's like everyone is playing Madden on Rookie mode now. I hate the direction the game has taken, it's completely out of hand. Arena football, I think we are already there...

wizwor said:

I'm watching the Packers and he is not a very good quarterback despite his stats.

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I don't understand this line. His stats are ****ing terrible this year. He's not bad "despite" his stats. His stats accurately reflect the poor season he's having.

And I don't know what you mean regarding giving pause to Jimmy. If Jimmy were to win a Super Bowl and have a future HOF career, I would be very very happy, as should anyone else. The next guy is not going to win 4 or 5 Super Bowls. Neither is the guy after that, or the guy after that, or the next several dozen guys either. The league may never see anyone like Brady again, let alone the Patriots.

So if Jimmy or whoever it is takes us "only" to 1 Super Bowl win and a bunch of winning seasons and won't be the GOAT, I won't consider him to be a bust at all.

Come on now, Aaron Rodgers is PHENOMENAL. His down games/seasons are peak years for 95% of QB's. Brady is definitely better but Rodgers ain't that far behind my friend.

This thread can't possibly be real.

This thread made Jackie confused.

Satchboogie3 said:

You guys aren't serious, right? Rodgers has been the best QB in the league not named Tom Brady for a while now. It isn't even close. Stats can lie, sure, but not when you put together the kind of season's Rodgers does year in year out. Put down the crack pipe...

On another note, am I the only one who is really sick of the offense-skewed league? There are 20 QBs with passer rating above 90, 12 above 100. Everyone has a positive TD-INT ratio, most the average probably in the 3-1 range. That is just stupid. It's like everyone is playing Madden on Rookie mode now. I hate the direction the game has taken, it's completely out of hand. Arena football, I think we are already there...

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Offense sells, its a better product to watch when teams score points. Denver had a crap QB last year and won the Superbowl because of there awesome defense. You can't just look at stat sheets and judge QB play, there are still only a few great QB's in the league. Brady, Breeze, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Wilson.... then you have a whole bunch of good QB's like Manning, Ryan, Dalton, etc. etc..

mosi said:

Players like A. Rodgers and Big ben are great QBs but Brady is on a whole different level. He has constantly played at a high level for 15 years. I don't think the Pats will ever have a QB as good as Brady. Heck, I don't think the NFL will have a QB that is good as Brady.

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There was a time I'd have thought that, in a generation, we could see one, but the way the league is going? Meh...

I have posted many times before that Rodgers is overrated and I stand by that. What a godawful performance today. We can draw similarities between the Pats-Bengals game turned out with Packers-Cowboys. Both home teams started bad but Pats started playing better starting with Brady. Rodgers looked lost in today's game. He relies heavily on big plays and easily gets frustrated at receivers even when it's his fault. I have never seen him rally the team behind him like Brady does. People putting him ahead of Brady should also look at his playoff record. He'll have as many one and dones as Manning when he's done playing.

Edit: I would like to add that he doesn't have a good coach in McCarthy either. That guy looks lost too. Rodgers has a great arm and is fun to watch but that about it. Just my opinion.

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