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I watched the debate; it sucked!

Still, seems like that was a better choice than watching MNF.

I thought the debate was decent and I can't stand either candidate.
 
When you watch the debate, Roger loses.

And THAT is a winner!
No because then we reward the debate commission for leaving out the guy 62℅ of Americans wanted in the debate. **** those guys and **** Anheuser Busch for sponsoring them. And now I'll step down from my soap box and say **** the nfl too :D.
 
Roger Goodell has ruined the reputation for the NFL in an attempt to "win" his little pissing match with the NFLPA. Also, I he is an attention whore who wants the story to be about him.

Greed in the NFL is also also a problem.

Goodell could give 2 ****s about the air in footballs anymore... unless somehow it can hurt the Patriots in the future.

Meanwhile he praises the players that disrespect the anthem and make negative PR that affects the league far more than an alleged equipment issue.

In short, I hope the NFL coffers suffer until Goodell is fired.
 
The Week 3 Falcons/Saints Monday Night Football game earned a 5.7 overnight rating, down 36% from Chiefs/Packers last year (8.9), down 38% from Bears/Jets in 2014 (9.2) and the lowest for any NFL telecast through the first three weeks of the season. The 5.7 is likely the lowest in the history of Monday Night Football

and don't blame it on the debate because

The last time MNF faced a presidential debate, Week 7 in 2012, Lions/Bears scored a 7.3 overnight. That game faced both a presidential debate and Game 7 of the MLB National League Championship Series.
 
The Week 3 Falcons/Saints Monday Night Football game earned a 5.7 overnight rating, down 36% from Chiefs/Packers last year (8.9), down 38% from Bears/Jets in 2014 (9.2) and the lowest for any NFL telecast through the first three weeks of the season. The 5.7 is likely the lowest in the history of Monday Night Football

and don't blame it on the debate because

The last time MNF faced a presidential debate, Week 7 in 2012, Lions/Bears scored a 7.3 overnight. That game faced both a presidential debate and Game 7 of the MLB National League Championship Series.

NFL Week 3 Overnights: Debate Sends MNF to Likely Record Low — Sports Media Watch

Here's the link.

Feeling pretty smug this morning. Don't care if I am just one household. Pulled another 0:00 of NFL this week (outside part of the Patriots game.) No question I would have watched MNF, or at least tuned in frequently, if I weren't boycotting the NFL. As luck would have it, my boycott has coincided with a massive downturn in television ratings. Or maybe it isn't just luck at play; I think a lot of people have finally soured to this league.

Best part is I won't be coming back, ever. So I'm looking forward to the NFL marketing team starting to turn up the heat as the owners sweat bullets. There's simply no way, in any business in the world, no matter how successful, that frequent losses of customer participation in the 10-20% range aren't incredibly concerning.
 
NFL Week 3 Overnights: Debate Sends MNF to Likely Record Low — Sports Media Watch

Here's the link.

Feeling pretty smug this morning. Don't care if I am just one household. Pulled another 0:00 of NFL this week (outside part of the Patriots game.) No question I would have watched MNF, or at least tuned in frequently, if I weren't boycotting the NFL. As luck would have it, my boycott has coincided with a massive downturn in television ratings. Or maybe it isn't just luck at play; I think a lot of people have finally soured to this league.

Best part is I won't be coming back, ever. So I'm looking forward to the NFL marketing team starting to turn up the heat as the owners sweat bullets. There's simply no way, in any business in the world, no matter how successful, that frequent losses of customer participation in the 10-20% range aren't incredibly concerning.

If this trend does continue, I wonder what else the league can do to increase interest. They've already tweaked the rules to open up the passing game and increase scoring. They've heavily pushed fantasy football and daily fantasy leagues. Games are on 3 days a week. What's left to make a casual fan want to tune back in? I don't think a longer season or a team in London will help.
 
If this trend does continue, I wonder what else the league can do to increase interest. They've already tweaked the rules to open up the passing game and increase scoring. They've heavily pushed fantasy football and daily fantasy leagues. Games are on 3 days a week. What's left to make a casual fan want to tune back in? I don't think a longer season or a team in London will help.

Physically and literally pillory Goodell at halftime? I'd tune into to watch that no matter what else was on.
 
If this trend does continue, I wonder what else the league can do to increase interest. They've already tweaked the rules to open up the passing game and increase scoring. They've heavily pushed fantasy football and daily fantasy leagues. Games are on 3 days a week. What's left to make a casual fan want to tune back in? I don't think a longer season or a team in London will help.

I had a game on this weekend, mostly just background, and I was looking for down and distance, but there were so many fantasy related stats on the screen there was no room for it.

Hey NFL* , I may be going out on a limb here, but maybe people watching a game would prefer information on the actual game being played, rather than fantasy stats.

I know, it's probably just me.
 
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The Week 3 Falcons/Saints Monday Night Football game earned a 5.7 overnight rating, down 36% from Chiefs/Packers last year (8.9), down 38% from Bears/Jets in 2014 (9.2) and the lowest for any NFL telecast through the first three weeks of the season. The 5.7 is likely the lowest in the history of Monday Night Football

and don't blame it on the debate because

The last time MNF faced a presidential debate, Week 7 in 2012, Lions/Bears scored a 7.3 overnight. That game faced both a presidential debate and Game 7 of the MLB National League Championship Series.

How did that 2012 debate do in terms of ratings though? I doubt it did anywhere near the same numbers that last night's debate did. Last night's debate probably did record numbers.
 
NFL Week 3 Overnights: Debate Sends MNF to Likely Record Low — Sports Media Watch

Here's the link.

Feeling pretty smug this morning. Don't care if I am just one household. Pulled another 0:00 of NFL this week (outside part of the Patriots game.) No question I would have watched MNF, or at least tuned in frequently, if I weren't boycotting the NFL. As luck would have it, my boycott has coincided with a massive downturn in television ratings. Or maybe it isn't just luck at play; I think a lot of people have finally soured to this league.

Best part is I won't be coming back, ever. So I'm looking forward to the NFL marketing team starting to turn up the heat as the owners sweat bullets. There's simply no way, in any business in the world, no matter how successful, that frequent losses of customer participation in the 10-20% range aren't incredibly concerning.

To put it another way, the counter to all the dumb **** that the commissioner and owners have pulled over the past decade-plus has been "yeah, but they're expanding the game. Ratings are up, contracts are bigger." We're watching the "yeah, but" fall apart in real-time, and I ****ing love it. These ratings create blowback from the advertisers to the network, and from the network right back to the league. This will absolutely hit the league right in the wallet.

I've read that ESPN promises MNF advertisers that they'll have 12-14 million viewers, and they're not delivering anything even close to that. Even funnier, according to that link viewership peaked 15 minutes before the game even started. So it was only partly that people weren't tuning in: it was also that people were actively tuning out right as the game started.
 
Pirated internet feeds. I mostly do that because I'm cheap but it would work in your situation too. As long as you don't mind the drop in quality.

I dropped Sunday Ticket and went to internet feeds as well, but I can consistnetly find HD (mostly 720p, but sometimes 1080p) feeds to cast to my TV. Feed quality has gone way, way up since I was a broke 21 year old.
 
For me the refereeing is so bad in most games it pisses me off but I still will watch. Not so much every game on TV anymore on any day or night, that was the old me. New me, won't miss a Pats game or a game that effects the Pats standings. Since I gave up DirecTV I have to go to sports bar for Pats games it's not the same as sitting at home but no other choice.
 
Just got a PM from @ReverendMaynard who tells me that last night, he wasn't able to watch the game on TV due to the fact that he was traveling, but was able to catch it on his mobile device.
 
I dropped Sunday Ticket and went to internet feeds as well, but I can consistnetly find HD (mostly 720p, but sometimes 1080p) feeds to cast to my TV. Feed quality has gone way, way up since I was a broke 21 year old.

I worked in the high-end audio video business for years. The difference between 720P and 1080P is arguably impossible to tell unless you are sitting about a foot from your television, or if you happen to have a projection screen of about 120 inches. 4K, of course, is possibly the biggest advertising hoax I've ever seen, considering that they are putting 4K on 40" television sets. I'd compare this to digital cameras that boast they can do 10 megapixels, but unless you are actually printing it on a large canvass, your camera/phone display is only 1 megapixel (720) or 2 megapixels (1080). It's funny to hear people talk about how much crisper their picture is having 10 megapixels when their display looks exactly the same either way because it can't even show you the difference. Sadly, the most important aspects of getting a great picture, which are motion handling, contrast, and black levels, have gone away with the death of plasma and the domination of LCD, which even on its most high-end set ever is still not that close to a plasma. Luckily, OLED is amazing and will eventually surpass plasma. Sorry to go off topic here, but my original point was that resolution is incredibly overrated and is cited incorrectly as the defining feature of picture quality.
 
I worked in the high-end audio video business for years. The difference between 720P and 1080P is arguably impossible to tell unless you are sitting about a foot from your television, or if you happen to have a projection screen of about 120 inches. 4K, of course, is possibly the biggest advertising hoax I've ever seen, considering that they are putting 4K on 40" television sets. I'd compare this to digital cameras that boast they can do 10 megapixels, but unless you are actually printing it on a large canvass, your camera/phone display is only 1 megapixel (720) or 2 megapixels (1080). It's funny to hear people talk about how much crisper their picture is having 10 megapixels when their display looks exactly the same either way because it can't even show you the difference. Sadly, the most important aspects of getting a great picture, which are motion handling, contrast, and black levels, have gone away with the death of plasma and the domination of LCD, which even on its most high-end set ever is still not that close to a plasma. Luckily, OLED is amazing and will eventually surpass plasma. Sorry to go off topic here, but my original point was that resolution is incredibly overrated and is cited incorrectly as the defining feature of picture quality.

As a video editor professional, I agree. You will have to try and pry my Panasonic Plasma from me.

I'd take an uncompressed 720/1080p signal on my 42" monitor over a watered down h264 4K file any day of the week.
 
As a video editor professional, I agree. You will have to try and pry my Panasonic Plasma from me.

I'd take an uncompressed 720/1080p signal on my 42" monitor over a watered down h264 4K file any day of the week.

Good stuff, buddy! When I could finally afford a plasma myself, it was literally the very end of the line. Fujitsu, Pioneer, and Panasonic had all shut down production, but I was able to snag the last run of the Samsung 8500 series. Upstairs we have an LCD, and I have trouble stomaching watching the darker scenes on it, especially things like a skyline against a dark sky. And definitely I agree, the compression of the video is leaps and bounds more important than the number of pixels. DirecTV is actually pretty good compared to cable, where the compression is so bad at times I don't know how people can enjoy the video.
 
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