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What Kraft Should Have Done Last Year, re: Deflategate


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I would have been satisfied if Kraft who went into the owner's full of support for his player and team kept his cool and did what Clark Hunt did when his team was unjustly penalized by the POS. Even if it did no good, he would not be the sniveling pathetic old wimp he became with his apology to the other owners and their fans. Something that all the PR statements and obscure reference to wrong doing by the NFL can't erase. Doesn't Kraft or his PR department realize that criticizing the NFL office without mentioning Goodell is like criticizing the Nazi's without mentioning Hitler. It just makes Kraft look like a bigger fool.
 
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lmao as if Bob Kraft would do anything for this team he's basically a Jets fan imo what a looser I hope he goes to hell and is raped for 10000000 years, dae agree?
I don't know if I'm on any other ignore list, but I'm glad I'm on fnords:)
 
Kraft could not have done anything to make this outcome different.. he was damned from the onset. The die was cast for #12... and nothing could have made things different.

The NFL would not have allowed him to measure the PSI in the balls..

There is no need for Mr. Kraft to have done anything different, the NFL monitored the inflation rates of the balls last year and refused to release the results.. what does that indicate?? If it supported the contention of Brady/Ideal Gas Law/Experts etc. they cannot release them..
Before the Well's report came out the Pats had seen the actual PSI numbers and therefore knew the Mortensen report of 11 of 12 balls 2 being 2 PSI under was false and the league letter sent by the NFL's Gardi claiming one ball was 10.1 under under too was a lie. The first lie almost certainly came from Goodells staff and the second lie absolutely did. Those two lies should have been attacked by the Pats before the Wells report came out. At that point they had a chance to win the PR war and make it far harder for the league to credible drag TB's reputation through the mud.
 
Can't we just get a sticky for Kraft venting? We're coming up on the start of the next season and the 3-5 weekly Kraft bashing threads are gonna start detracting from actual stuff to discuss.
Stop venting about the venting. Your criticism of the Kraft criticism is detracting from our bashing of him. Kraft needs to be bashed -- as often as possible in as many new threads as possible. Perhaps you should have a sticky announcing your displeasure with this so we can have as many Kraft-bashing threads/posts as needed without your interference. Enough is enough.
 
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************, the constant Kraft whining is making this board next to unreadable.
He made some serious mistakes along the way and at times it was disappointing and infuriating, but I largely agree with you. I don't think anything he could have done differently would have changed the outcome one iota. He's the wrong scapegoat. Goodell and the other 31 weren't going to allow anyone or anything to derail their smear campaign. Simple as that. Finally, to me, the most disappointing aspect of the activity toward Kraft here has been the false, revisionist history. He saved this f###### franchise, pure and simple. Yes, Bledsoe, Parcells and others helped, but Bob Kraft saved it.
 
Before the Well's report came out the Pats had seen the actual PSI numbers and therefore knew the Mortensen report of 11 of 12 balls 2 being 2 PSI under was false and the league letter sent by the NFL's Gardi claiming one ball was 10.1 under under too was a lie. The first lie almost certainly came from Goodells staff and the second lie absolutely did. Those two lies should have been attacked by the Pats before the Wells report came out. At that point they had a chance to win the PR war and make it far harder for the league to credible drag TB's reputation through the mud.

So you believe a "PR war" would have stopped all subsequent shenanigans by the league office?? Goodell knew what the discipline would be before the Well's Report, all that mickey mouse report did was substantiate what he wanted to do.. it is what the 31 wanted.
 
this is not a let's bash Robert Kraft thread, but it baffles me why the Patriots did not sponsor their own independent findings last year about air levels in the footballs. The corrupt NFL did so but would not release the data as it would verify that balls deflate in cold weather.

He did. It's on wellsreportincontex.
 
Stop venting about the venting. Your criticism of the Kraft criticism is detracting from our bashing of him. Kraft needs to be bashed -- as often as possible in as many new threads as possible. Perhaps you should have a sticky announcing your displeasure with this so we can have as many Kraft-bashing threads/posts as needed without your interference. Enough is enough.
I'm frankly scared to comment on the evaluations of the criticism of the criticism with respect to its effect on the bashing...I agree with your analysis. Let's try to get together on this, and other subjects. We are all Patriots fans, yes? Bob deserves tons of credit, but like all of us he's not perfect. I do not believe the NFL expected (or really wanted) him to swoop in, buy the team, build the stadium by himself, and win in unprecedented fashion like this...The league has not really ever been our friend.
 
Sign me up for that. Without Bob Kraft would have been the St.Louis Stallions.
Yeah. Although, we do sort of look like the Stallions. Or the Birmingham Americans.
 
Stop venting about the venting. Your criticism of the Kraft criticism is detracting from our bashing of him. Kraft needs to be bashed -- as often as possible in as many new threads as possible. Perhaps you should have a sticky announcing your displeasure with this so we can have as many Kraft-bashing threads/posts as needed without your interference. Enough is enough.
Um, he vent that vay.
 
I'm frankly scared to comment on the evaluations of the criticism of the criticism with respect to its effect on the bashing...I agree with your analysis. Let's try to get together on this, and other subjects. We are all Patriots fans, yes? Bob deserves tons of credit, but like all of us he's not perfect. I do not believe the NFL expected (or really wanted) him to swoop in, buy the team, build the stadium by himself, and win in unprecedented fashion like this...The league has not really ever been our friend.
I cannot concur with cretinous chumps who carelessly consider that criticizing the criticism connoting commission of a conceivably conclusive catastrophe constituting capitulation carries calamitous consequences. Capiche?
 
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people should continue to vent......there's value in it
 
I'm not sure I understand your question. I want (wanted) him to actively defy them/piss them off instead of folding and kissing their behinds.
I read sarcasm. My bad
 
So you believe a "PR war" would have stopped all subsequent shenanigans by the league office?? Goodell knew what the discipline would be before the Well's Report, all that mickey mouse report did was substantiate what he wanted to do.. it is what the 31 wanted.
How do the patriots attorneys BEG the league office for the measurements not get them and then get told when they finally do that they can't make them public and Kraft do nothing?
The league office is accountable to its owners. Kraft could have changed the dialogue by forcing the league to correct the misinformation.
That's just one thing he could have done.
 
How do the patriots attorneys BEG the league office for the measurements not get them and then get told when they finally do that they can't make them public and Kraft do nothing?
The league office is accountable to its owners. Kraft could have changed the dialogue by forcing the league to correct the misinformation.
That's just one thing he could have done.


you are incorrect.......the league office is accountable to a majority of owners....or some kind of quorum .... the league office IS NOT accountable to one owner
 
How do the patriots attorneys BEG the league office for the measurements not get them and then get told when they finally do that they can't make them public and Kraft do nothing?
The league office is accountable to its owners. Kraft could have changed the dialogue by forcing the league to correct the misinformation.
That's just one thing he could have done.

I think Kraft was essentially neutered as an owner as soon as the direction towards Brady was decided upon, and that happened very early on..

What can Kraft do?? We are dealing with the hypothetical, and outside of NE fandom no one gave a rats ass about what happened to Brady and cared even less about equipment issues..

Cannot recall any other time that one owner publicly came to the aid of another owner in any situation.. it is almost as though there are 32 different kingdoms with one superking.
 
So you believe a "PR war" would have stopped all subsequent shenanigans by the league office?? Goodell knew what the discipline would be before the Well's Report, all that mickey mouse report did was substantiate what he wanted to do.. it is what the 31 wanted.
NO one can guarantee what the league would have done or what would have happened if the Pats had taken a different tactic. But we do know that letting blatant lies badly go unchallenged damaged the reputation of Brady and the franchise. I do think that the 11 of 12 Mortensen report gave the league an excuse to make it into a much bigger issue than it first send to be. I do think that lie and the one ball at 10.1 lie in the letter to the Pats certainly threw Brady off stride in the first press conference and set the tone for the rest of this fiasco. I also think that if you let the bully punch you in the face he won't stop until you do something to turn things around.
 
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