Aaron Rodgers overrated?

RobertWeathers · Jul 21, 2016

KontradictioN said:
She's a smoke bomb.

Olivia Munn is superior.

goheels22002 · Jul 21, 2016

Among active QBs at the start of 2016 training camp my top six are:

Cam Newton
Tom Brady
Russell Wilson
Ben Roethlisberger
Aaron Rodgers
Ryan Tannehill

This is not a career ranking - just what they can do for their team this year. Brady is the GOAT, no question.

Aaron Rodgers is 19th among active QBs in bringing his team back from a deficit in the 4th quarter to win a game. 19th: NFL Active Fourth Quarter Comebacks Leaders (since 1960) | Pro-Football-Reference.com Rodgers is tied with Mark Sanchez for comeback wins.

Wilson and Roethlisberger have epic comebacks. Brady is the GOAT at 37 in his career.

Newton is #1 for his throwing, his running and the fact that he took his team to the Super Bowl. He now has playoff experience and a very tough lesson in humility that can serve him well. I expect him to be less of a prima donna douche this year and show maturity after his humiliation in the Super Bowl.

The guy that intrigues me most of all is Ryan Tannehill. I looked at his stats for the first four years in a chaotic, disfunctional environment, and am very impressed. Ryan Tannehill NFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com

At 27, I think he's shown more poise and understanding of the game than guys like Rivers or Matty Ryan. If the Patriots could trade for Tannehill to succeed Brady, I think he'd flourish under Belichick.

JMC00 · Jul 21, 2016

letekro said:
Brady started out 10-0 in the playoffs. He is 12-9 since. According to your theory on Rodgers, Brady was a much better quarterback from 2001-2004 than he has been since that time.

You might consider that the other 52 guys have something to do with team records. And you might also consider that Mike McCarthy is a long, long, long way from Bill Belichick.

Problem with this logic is we've seen a season where Brady carried a defense that was much worse than any defense Rodgers has ever had to a catch away from another SB. Rodgers has never carried a team to a SB, that '10 season his defense was playing at an elite level.

Also the longest gap Brady has gone without appearing in SB is 3 seasons. Rodgers hasn't appeared in the SB in 5 seasons. Sorry but if you are gonna do that stupid little title belt celebration and be called the greatest in the game gotta do better than 1 SB appearance and that being half a decade ago. Brady's been to 2 SBs since the last time Rodgers played in 1.

SHOWTIME15 · Jul 21, 2016

Rodgers has never had the coaching

JMC00 · Jul 21, 2016

goheels22002 said:
Among active QBs at the start of 2016 training camp my top six are:

Cam Newton
Tom Brady

Go watch Brady play Denver in Denver both times last season and then watch the SB and tell me if you still think that.

Go watch Brady dive for the ball in a Week 17 game against the lolphins with a bad ankle and Suh trying to bend him in half and other lolphins players diving in for the ball and then go watch Netwon pull out of a loose ball in the SB with the game on the line.

I feel people just throw their QB lists out there based on athletic ability it's more than that to be a QB. Newton turtled and sulked the biggest game of his career. Brady in the biggest game of his career (and yes that SB was given the media circus and scrutiny leading up to that game) put the team on his back down 10 points.

WhoaDirty · Jul 21, 2016

PatsfanCP said:
Gomer?

I believe that's a reference to Eli.

aluminum seats · Jul 21, 2016

robertweathers said:
Olivia Munn is superior.

Hmmm, I dunno. She's cute, but I don't know she has all the tools JoJo has. Plus Munn's 10 years older, so I think you'll really start to see a decline there soon.

These are the tough decisions that have to be made with veterans.

SalemPats · Jul 21, 2016

PatsfanCP said:
This is something I randomly thought about.

He is 7-6 in the playoffs

Many QBs have better records in the playoffs Wilson is 7-3

Flacco 10-5

since 2010 Rogers is 2-4 in the playoffs 63.9 percent of his passes with six touchdowns and two interceptions for a passer rating of 91.6.

The packers have had some very good teams in 2014 and 2011 and they have had a full list of Weapons.

Listen the man is a very good QB elite status.

He can throw on the run and throws a deep ball that is beautiful to see but his not the best QB in the NFL and it makes no sense to me why people say it.

A lot of the praise he gets is how nice it is to watch him work not taking away from how good he really is.

Call me Crazy I feel like guys like Big Ben does not get enough respect.

Also another argument Brett farve played in multiple NFC champions and two super bowls and won a Ring and has 13 playoffs wins.

So i still feel Brett is the Greats QB besides Bart Starr to play for the Packers until Rogers does more.

I think Rogers may win another ring but I think the Packers will keep falling short.

Again this was just on my mind you guys give me your opinion.

No, he's not overrated in fact I would put him as the 2nd best QB of all time behind Brady. He's the most accurate passer on roll outs i have ever seen, has great footwork, tough, patient, allows the play to develop.

I thought his performance 2 years ago against us was one of the best games I have ever seen a QB play.

In fact, Peyton is not even in his league. It's Brady in tier 1, Rodgers in tier 2 and then the rest

varjao · Jul 21, 2016

goheels22002 said:
Among active QBs at the start of 2016 training camp my top six are:

Cam Newton
Tom Brady
Russell Wilson
Ben Roethlisberger
Aaron Rodgers
Ryan Tannehill

This is not a career ranking - just what they can do for their team this year. Brady is the GOAT, no question.

Aaron Rodgers is 19th among active QBs in bringing his team back from a deficit in the 4th quarter to win a game. 19th: NFL Active Fourth Quarter Comebacks Leaders (since 1960) | Pro-Football-Reference.com Rodgers is tied with Mark Sanchez for comeback wins.

Wilson and Roethlisberger have epic comebacks. Brady is the GOAT at 37 in his career.

Newton is #1 for his throwing, his running and the fact that he took his team to the Super Bowl. He now has playoff experience and a very tough lesson in humility that can serve him well. I expect him to be less of a prima donna douche this year and show maturity after his humiliation in the Super Bowl.

The guy that intrigues me most of all is Ryan Tannehill. I looked at his stats for the first four years in a chaotic, disfunctional environment, and am very impressed. Ryan Tannehill NFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com

At 27, I think he's shown more poise and understanding of the game than guys like Rivers or Matty Ryan. If the Patriots could trade for Tannehill to succeed Brady, I think he'd flourish under Belichick.

jezzz, Tannehill doesn't impress me at all, I hope he stays his entire career in the lolphins, they won't even sniff a playoff appearance.

chasa · Jul 21, 2016

KontradictioN said:
The Packers defenses, or lack thereof, have been their downfall in the playoffs since 2010. Rodgers, for instance, didn't lose that game against the Seahawks in the '14 NFCCG. You're right that he will never be Brady, but he's a very solid #2.

i disagree. The packers D gave rodgers 3 or 4 chances from turn overs at the start of the game, and all rodgers walked away with are field goals. thats not the GB Defense's fault, they played lights out in the first half and the offense were 3 downs and a field goal. Hard to stay motivated when your offense can't get it done.

signbabybrady · Jul 21, 2016

Rodgers is slightly over rated but still great.

Cam is greatly over rated but still pretty good. Have to see what he does now that he's lived up to his hype.

Brady is still somehow under rated. I don't think many outside New England realize just how amazing he really is.

JMC00 · Jul 21, 2016

chasa said:
i disagree. The packers D gave rodgers 3 or 4 chances from turn overs at the start of the game, and all rodgers walked away with are field goals.

3 turnovers in Seahawks territory 2 of them inside the 25 yard line..

Also he lost them at least 3 points on the first drive throwing to a rookie in the endzone who was being defended by Sherman, who picked it off.

Not to mention Micah Hyde had a punt return that set them up at the Seattle 33 and all they got was a FG. Which here is how the game went after that punt return

Packers start at SEA 33- FG 16-0
Packers defense INT. Down at the SEA 41.
GB gets a 1st down and is at the SEA 33. Rodgers throws a terrible gift pick to Maxwell at the SEA 26
Packers pick Wilson off again in the Endzone. (2 minute warning)
GB gets 1 first down and then goes 3 downs and out.
Halftime
Seahawks go 3 and out. Hyde returns it to the GB 40
Packers go 3 and out

And I didn't skip any drive, that happens in consecutive order

How is this game not at all on the "best QB in the game" and on the defense? Team gifted you turnovers and field position and you do nothing with it

varjao · Jul 21, 2016

JMC00 said:
3 turnovers in Seahawks territory 2 of them inside the 25 yard line..

Also he lost them at least 3 points on the first drive throwing to a rookie in the endzone who was being defended by Sherman, who picked it off.

Not to mention Micah Hyde had a punt return that set them up at the Seattle 33 and all they got was a FG. Which here is how the game went after that punt return

Packers start at SEA 33- FG 16-0
Packers defense INT. Down at the SEA 41.
GB gets a 1st down and is at the SEA 33. Rodgers throws a terrible gift pick to Maxwell at the SEA 26
Packers pick Wilson off again in the Endzone. (2 minute warning)
GB gets 1 first down and then goes 3 downs and out.
Halftime
Seahawks go 3 and out. Hyde returns it to the GB 40
Packers go 3 and out

And I didn't skip any drive, that happens in consecutive order

How is this game not at all on the "best QB in the game" and on the defense? Team gifted you turnovers and field position and you do nothing with it

Exactly, Rodgers is great but there is no defense for him and McCarthy in that game.

We don't know if the Seahawks will keep doing plays like that winning TD but at that certain point in time they were known for making plays out of their ass, decisive plays, in defense and offense, coming back to games, and playing until the last minute. It was no surprise they won the game, it was shocking how passive the Packers were with a small lead against that team.

BobDigital · Jul 21, 2016

I don't think he is overrated except for many inside of GB.

He is a great QB and future HOFer. Probably will be top 10 all time before he is done (needs another ring though which i think he will get at some point). I think from 2011-2013 (before he got hurt) he was the best QB in the game. Then Brady in 2014 really stepped it up and recovered a bit on the footwork and mobility area which his game has missed since his 2008 injury somewhat.

Personally I think he is better than Favre who i do think is overrated by many in the national media.

Chevy · Jul 21, 2016

Drewwho said:
... All I know is he's in his Prime and having a **** season (yes, crap) like he did last season in his prime is not greatness or a positive sign for the future.

Record: 10-6-0
Completions: 347
Attempts: 572
Percent: 60.7
Yards: 3821
Touchdowns: 31
Interceptions: 8

Please say I missed your sarcasm tag - because from where I sit that was hardly a "****" season.

deters · Jul 21, 2016

His talent and individual play are not overrated. He is an exceptional player and best QB in the league not named Brady.

RobertWeathers · Jul 21, 2016

Chevy said:
Record: 10-6-0
Completions: 347
Attempts: 572
Percent: 60.7
Yards: 3821
Touchdowns: 31
Interceptions: 8

Please say I missed your sarcasm tag - because from where I sit that was hardly a "****" season.

He really missed Jordy. The comp % and ypc were directly impacted by his absence. They had line problems too IIRC

Joey007 · Jul 21, 2016

goheels22002 said:
Among active QBs at the start of 2016 training camp my top six are:

Cam Newton
Tom Brady
Russell Wilson
Ben Roethlisberger
Aaron Rodgers
Ryan Tannehill

This is not a career ranking - just what they can do for their team this year. Brady is the GOAT, no question.

Aaron Rodgers is 19th among active QBs in bringing his team back from a deficit in the 4th quarter to win a game. 19th: NFL Active Fourth Quarter Comebacks Leaders (since 1960) | Pro-Football-Reference.com Rodgers is tied with Mark Sanchez for comeback wins.

Wilson and Roethlisberger have epic comebacks. Brady is the GOAT at 37 in his career.

Newton is #1 for his throwing, his running and the fact that he took his team to the Super Bowl. He now has playoff experience and a very tough lesson in humility that can serve him well. I expect him to be less of a prima donna douche this year and show maturity after his humiliation in the Super Bowl.

The guy that intrigues me most of all is Ryan Tannehill. I looked at his stats for the first four years in a chaotic, disfunctional environment, and am very impressed. Ryan Tannehill NFL Football Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com

At 27, I think he's shown more poise and understanding of the game than guys like Rivers or Matty Ryan. If the Patriots could trade for Tannehill to succeed Brady, I think he'd flourish under Belichick.

Tannehill? What? The guy hasn't even made the playoffs...

Tannehill? What? Huh? How?

QuantumMechanic · Jul 21, 2016

BobDigital said:
Favre who i do think is overrated by many in the national media.

God, yes.

The Boston Patriot · Jul 21, 2016

Overrated? No way. He would be my second choice of QB's in this league after Brady.

Aaron Rodgers overrated?

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